Do Any Sig's have a safety??

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by BearArms2, Dec 25, 2011.

  1. BearArms2

    BearArms2 New Member

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    I was looking at a few different Sigs (as im sure you will know by this question, I am still learning about guns) -- mainly the 220, 226, 229 and 2022....i noticed none had a safety either on the trigger or on the slide. Is this true of all Sigs? do none of them have a safety?

    hope someone can help --- thanks!
    Merry Christmas!!
     
  2. kdog

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    Hi,

    Sigs have internal safeties and the decocking lever.
    Classic Sig are not meant to carry cocked, like a 1911 or so and with the decocking lever it is very safe to drop the hammer.

    The only Sig pistols I know of, that have an external safety is the Sig 1911, the P22x X-Series (exept the allround version).
     

  3. Sonic82

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    Like most DA/SA pistols....the safety is the deliberate loooong pull for the first shot. But outside of a Beretta and maybe some other DA/SA guns, there is no complete lock-out of the hammer or trigger. SIG's have been proven safe if properly holstered.
     
  4. 9026543

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    Sig P238 has a external safety. Of course it is a miniature 1911 type.
     
  5. trip286

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    Don't they have a SAO model that can be carried cocked and locked? Besides the 1911? I don't know for sure, I browsed their site a while back and thought I saw one, I could be (and likely am) mistaken in that.
     
  6. Sonic82

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    Not sure...they have DAO/DAK...same first long pull for safety applies.
     
  7. BearArms2

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    Does anyone know of other guns (outside of Beretta) that offer a safety which completely lock out the hammer or trigger?

    Thanks for everyone for the help and answers!!
     
  8. spenc

    spenc New Member

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    Most if not all FNH handguns have external safetys and decockers I believe.

    MP, OIF 07-08
     
  9. Sonic82

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    M & P can be bought with external thumb safety combined with a Glock style on the trigger. If that is a priority a Springfield XD or XDM is probably the safest pistol on the market IMO, it has a trigger (Glock) safety and grip safety. It's different than a thumb/lever style like a Beretta. A Ruger SR9 and SR9c have both Beretta style thumb safety and Glock type on the trigger.
     
  10. sweeper22

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    I'm pretty certain you can get a SAO Sig P220 with a thumb safety. Great gun, BTW.

    There are other really good metal guns with thumb safeties (since that's what you seem to be preferring). These 4 would be far and away my favorites:

    CZ 75b
    Browning Hi-Power
    1911 (various brands)
    Sig P220 SAO

    Most CZ 75 and BHP will be 9mm. Most 1911 and P220 will be 45acp.
     
  11. Sonic82

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    CZ!!...yes the CZ P-01 is the one to get. Beretta style safety, all metal, great ergonomics and nice size. And affordable. Another I kick myself for selling.:mad:

    Correction: The P-01 has a frame mounted decocking-only lever that drops the hammer into a half-cock position. Not the same as the Beretta safety. Essentially once decocked it is similar to a SIG with 'first shot long pull'.
     
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2011
  12. kdog

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    There are several pistols out there, that have a manual safety.

    CZ75 (depending on the modell. The CZ75 BD has a decocker, instead of normal safety, but on the classic CZ75, the hammer/trigger and slide is locked), Some of the HK service pistols have a safety, etc.
    I had my CZ75 changed to SAO, but I don`t carry CCW (not allowed here in germany).
    Some of the Sig X Series has a manual safety like on the 1911`s.
    Glocks have a manual saftey, aswell as S&S M&P, where the safey is in the trigger (if the little tongue on the Glock trigger isn`t pulled, the trigger will not break the shot, similar on the M&P).
     
  13. robocop10mm

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    P-210 9mm very pricey
     
  14. kdog

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    You don`t need a SAO to carry cocked.
    You just need the correct type of safety.

    If Sig dosn`t gove you, what you are looking for, check out some other manufactorers like the metioned ones.
    CZ, Colt/Springfield/LesBear/Peters Stahl, etc (all 1911`s), FN, Ruger, Walther, etc.

    there are several brands out there, that have manual safeties on them.
     
  15. truevil1313

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    H&K USP has a saftey and a decocker.
     
  16. gwk4667

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    I have never owned a Sig but this caused me to go to their website and I might look into one now.

    As far as the 220 is concerned this is listed in the spec section

    "SIG SAUER® four-point safety system of decocking lever, patented automatic firing pin safety block, safety intercept notch, and trigger bar disconnector."

    No it does not list a thumb safety being available but I would love to get one in my hand and check it out.
     
  17. kdog

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    All of the standard Sig Sauer duty pistols have those safety features, because required by german police and military.
    The Sig P6, which is the service modell of the P225 has been carried for over 20 years by the german police in several states, untill they switched to Walther P99 or the HK P30 at the Bundespolizei.

    They are known as pretty much the safest firearms around. Very accurate, durable and easy to maintain and service.
    As far as I know, the Navy Seals chose the P226 as standard side arm.

    I can only recomend them and taking in consideration, that you have a decocking lever, it is very safe to drop the hammer before holstering.

    Go to the next gun club and test one. You will love the feel of it and once you get a hang of it, you will never want any other pistol, besides a CZ75 maybe.

    Heres a pic of my 1996 P226 with the E2 grip kit on it.

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    And my 1986 CZ75 Pre "B", transformed to SAO:

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  18. Sonic82

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    I've heard that can be done. I've thought about it for my P229 as I've felt the E2 grip and liked it. How is it achieved? Because it is smaller I don't now how it's accomplished. What is the cost for the conversion? Can it be done to my SCT version? It has the extended magazine.
     
  19. kdog

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    I know there is a upgrade kit for the P229 out there.
    On my P226 I only had to change the mainspring, mainspring seat, decocking lever and the hammerstrut. It could all be done by myself in about 15mins.

    Here is a link to the grip kit fo rthe P229
    Sig Sauer E2 Grip Kit P229 - Top Gun Supply
     
  20. Sonic82

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    Thanks kdog, sure is reasonably priced. I'm just not sure how it works with the P229SCT version. Here's a pic.

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