Discussing new guns

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Rex in OTZ, Oct 20, 2011.

  1. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ Well-Known Member

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    I hope this thread runs awhile, I just saw the Nov/Dec 2011 issue of 'Rifle Shooter' the cover featured a detachable mag fed bolt rifle, Mossburg's new AR Mag -capable .223 bolt gun The (MVP:Mossburg Varmit Prediator) the neatist part was the innovative drop-push bolt employing a lever that drops down to strip rounds from an AR mag, The problem Ruger had trying to use M14 mags in ther scout rifle was not all mags would feed in a particular rifle, this feature seems to cure that problem.
    Tactical Bolt Action - Mossberg
     

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  2. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    I likie. :cool:

    Good looking stick Rex!

    So ya got one on order?
     

  3. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ Well-Known Member

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    Love the idea not the caliber

    if they had one of these in .243win I'd be on it like a Hobo on a Ham sandwich, It'd be a likely replacement for my 183 series Mini-14
     
  4. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    i equate mossberg with shotguns just how accurate is that rifle??
     
  5. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ Well-Known Member

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    Accuracy of the MVP

    what I read by gun writer Scott Rupp
    from his factory sample rifle, features the LBA trigger (Lightning Bolt Action)
    started with factory set (adjustable) trigger at 3.1/4# out the box, he adjusted it to 2.5 pounds
    Scoped with Nikon ProStaff 4-12x40 on weaver style base, Burris ZEE steel med Rings
    Caliber: 5.56NATO
    Butt stock 13" length of pull, Rifle OAL is 43"
    Weight 7.25# empty (minus mag)
    BBL 24" med Bull, Fluted, 1:9 twist, Varmit crown
    Benchrest style gray laminated stock

    100 yd 3round groups
    Hornady Superformance NTX -35gr, 1.115"
    Winchester ballistic Silvertip -36gr, 0.89"
    Hornady V-Max - 40gr, 0.76"
    BlackHills V-Max - 50gr, 0.46"
    Black Hills V-Max - 50gr, 1.07" .....at 200yds
    Federal Sierra GameKing - 55gr, 1.12"
    Black Hills Barnes MPG - 55gr, 0.60"
    Federal Ballistic Tip - 55gr, 1.03"
    Winchester Power Point - 64gr, 1.01"
     
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  6. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ Well-Known Member

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    Life and times of Mossburg Rifles

    O.F Mossburg started in 1919, I knew they had made rimfire rifles since before the 1940's they made bunches of rimfires for the Military's basic trainging marksman programs.

    NumrichGun Parts lists parts for 195 diffrent model& submodel varients of rifle mostly rimfire models, they did produce centerfire models.
    I'll mention some below
    Leveraction model 472PRA&PCA, 479PCA,SCA,PCB,SCB and the 679
    Mfg 1972 -1980 all conventional looking tube fed lever rifles resembling Marlins
    some with diffrent sights, straight and pistol grip and short mag and long mag
    in 30-30Win and .35Rem
    (Western Auto, Montgomery Wards and NewHaven)
    They came out with 3 diffrent Bolt action bolt head types 2 lug, 3 TRI Lug and 4 (dual) lug
    the 800 has a triangular locking lug layout that uses a SAKO type plunger ejecter and extracter claw,
    800,A,B,C,CVT,CSM, Western Auto 220A&B, Montgomery Wards 780,767,782,768 and New haven model 900A&B
    the Model 810A&B,Western Auto 210A,Montgomery Wards732,734,765,766 and New Haven 910A&B had two parallel rows of locking lugs (4 lugs 2 on each side the bolt head)

    The RM7 has the same basic 4 lug bolt of the M810, diffrent trigger/sear/mag
    Mossberg model 1500/1700 rifle parts are in the Smith & Wesson model 1500 section are essentually the same as the Weatherby Vanguard, Post 1981 they are currently being imported by Interarms as the Howa High Power Rifle

    The link below is a little confuseing they run two columns on the page so watch for the model


    http://www.gun-data.com/Mossberg_models_years.html
     
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  7. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i really like the looks of that rifle. MRSP on the base rifle is $649. not cheap, but not bad either. might be worth looking into.
     
  8. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    I'm not impressed with the stock at all. They need to either commit to

    a standard paradigm, or a straight Stoner design, and stop licking up

    to both without becoming either.

    For some reason, bolt-actions with box mags remind

    me of the old broom-handle

    Mauser pistol, and, IMHO, have about as much appeal.

    And I like Mossbergs. I own one.
     
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  9. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    Its a tack driver, especially for a mass produced rifle.
     
  10. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    I know that the one i played with was accurate as sin and they are what i expected out of mossberg especially since i have one of the above mentioned 800b's in 243. The 243 is a consistant MOA rifle-once you get used to the stiff a$$ trigger, and its serial #s came back as made in june 1973. So they do make awesome rifles for fairly cheap, same as they do shotguns.
     
  11. jpattersonnh

    jpattersonnh Active Member

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    The idea of a bolt gun that uses AR mags has some merit, although I am not a box magazine fan on bolt guns. You can find mags pretty cheap, that includes 5 round. The Laminated stock is a very good idea to give a stable platform in all weather conditions. Not a bad looking rig.
     
  12. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i also was not a fan of a box magazine on a bolt action, but my thought on it seems to be changing for some reason. i have even given some consideration to using one on the rifle i'm building.