Disappointed with my Taurus Judge

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by Franciscomv, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. Franciscomv

    Franciscomv New Member

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    First of all, I don't want this to turn into a Taurus bashing thread. There are lots of people out there with Taurus revolvers that work just fine, any company can slip up every once in a while. Sadly, Taurus warranty and customer service are non existent in Argentina.

    I've had my Judge (stainless, 4" barrell) for a few weeks, but I hadn't really been able to test it. I tried some .410 ammo, and only a cylinder or two of .45 since I couldn't get my hands on any ammo and had no time to hit the range.

    Anyway, I went shooting today and took it along. I was well stocked with a couple of boxes of .45 LC (Magtech Cowboy Action and regular Magtech) and .410 (a box of #3 shot and a box of buckshot).

    I started with the cowboy loads and the target at five meters, shooting quickly in DA I got some decent groups. The sights were easy to pick up and with those mild loads recoil was non existent.

    I moved the target back to the ten meter line, and the groups open up a lot. At first I thought it could be me, I get excited when the shooting's going well and I screw up. However, even though I'm very much an average shooter, double action revolvers are what I handle best and even on my worst days I'm pretty consistent. I tried firing single action and the groups were still far from acceptable.

    To make matters worse, the cylinder started to jam. I'd get one shot off, and then it would stick and stop turning. This was really frustrating, just thinking about this happening in a self defense situation made me shiver. This happened after firing less than 40 shots of mild cowboy action loads.

    I didn't even bother trying to fire it at 15 meters. After I'm done cleaning it up I'm going to take it back to the guns store and either sell it or exchange it for something else. I've been meaning to expand my snubbie collection, this might be a good chance for a new Smith or Ruger. Or perhaps one of those cute little NAA mini revolvers.
     
  2. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    That sucks. However, a new revolver will probably make you feel better. :cool:
     

  3. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    Sorry to hear but I'm not surprised. Taurus QC is a crap shoot and a lot of lemons get through - I've had more than one. They do make good guns but I prefer not to roll the dice in hopes I get a good one...
     
  4. Jo da Plumbr

    Jo da Plumbr New Member

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    That sucks bro.

    Hope you get somthing that works better.
     
  5. gadrooning

    gadrooning New Member

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    Sorry to hear that, but I can sympathize. I did the exact same thing with my judge. Couldn't get rid of it fast enough. Good luck on the next purchase.
     
  6. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

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    I know the feeling. I will pray to the gun God on your behalf. I'm saddened Taurus has gone this way in their production. Good Luck and keep us posted!!
     
  7. rifleman1

    rifleman1 New Member

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    you cant get a judge in california from what im told, so i'll never get to try one.
     
  8. Franciscomv

    Franciscomv New Member

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    The frame cracked. There's a fracture that starts right under the forcing cone. Now I'm pissed off.

    I fired less than a box of freaking cowboy action loads! Thank God I didn't try any stronger stuff. I'm taking it to the gun shop tomorrow.

    No more Taurus products for me, thank you very much. Innacurate is one thing, but this is too much.

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    I'm sorry about the bad pic. It's a difficult angle, my camera is quite crappy and it's 2:30am. I drew a red line around the fracture.
     
  9. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    Man that sucks! I've had mixed luck with Taurus fire arms but I've never had a cracked frame.
     
  10. Franciscomv

    Franciscomv New Member

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    I just took it to the gun shop, they assured me that I would either get a new gun or my money back. It will probably take a few days to hear back from the Taurus importer, but I've been buying from this shop for a while, and one of my best friends works there, so their word is enough to put my mind at ease.

    If the Taurus distributor sends a new Judge, I'm going to put it up for sale without even opening the bloody box.
     
  11. raveneap

    raveneap New Member

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    I've had a number of Tauri but not the judge. i didn't have any problems with mine but sold or traded them as time went by and I found other things I wanted more. You mentioned the NAA mini. I bought the Mini Mag on impulse. Shot it once and was lucky to sell it for what I paid. Quality seemed ok but accuracy was something else. You don't expect much in the way of accuracy with such a short barrel but if you held it against your target you had a 50/50 change of hitting it. Good luck with the judge.
     
  12. fxstchewy

    fxstchewy New Member

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    I have a couple hundred through my "Judge" and no issues so far but.........
     
  13. layton

    layton New Member

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    Mine is not a revolver ,but an auto PT-745, and I am lucky so far, put a little over 1000 rounds through it and never have had any FTF or FTE and no other problems at all, guess I am extremely lucky. When I bought the Taurus, I was looking at the Bersa subcompact, but they were all on back order so I got yhe Taurus sub, and it is a sweet firing weapon.


    Layton
     
  14. Trocar

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    The NAA .22 mag is for extreme close quarter defense. I own one, and keep CCI snake shot in it. I wouldn't use it on someone who was more than 10 ft. away. My judge has been doing fine. It's lost some of the novelty since i bought it, but still a solid revolver.
     
  15. Franciscomv

    Franciscomv New Member

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    I just got a lemon, most Taurus owners seem to be perfectly happy with their guns. The company's certainly improved over the last few years.

    Still, a cracked frame after less than 50 mild shots of a low pressure calibre isn't that kind of experience that'll send me running to the store for one of their .44s or .357s.

    I admit that this was an impulse buy, I had no real use for the gun. I've got much better home defense weapons, and certainly better carry weapons as well. The novelty did wear off after a few weeks and I was thinking about selling it or trading it for something else.

    Since the guys at the gun shop told me that the importer will either give me a new gun (in which case I'll sell it) or my money back, I see this little accident as the chance to get something I've really been lusting after (like a NIB S&W model 10 from the '50s they've got at the store) or something that I actually have a use for (I can get a Remington 870 for what I paid for the Judge).
     
  16. WDB

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    Bummer, sorry to hear about the Judge, I heard a lot of good about the pistol but a picture (even a blury one) is worth a 1,000 words. Pretty hard to go wrong with that S&W model 10 as a shoter and a collector item latter on. If it is like NIB that would be a sweet pistol to have.
     
  17. Franciscomv

    Franciscomv New Member

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    It's absolutely pristine, unfired, with it's box and paperwork. It's a 4" pencil barrel, so I don't think that it will go up in value too much, since there are lots like it, but it's a true classic that a wheelgun lover like me just has to have.

    And the idea of of firing the first shot through a 40+ year old gun is enough to get me excited. I haven't heard back from the dealer yet, but I'm hoping to get my money back so I can get this baby, if they replace the revolver I'll have to put it up for sale.
     
  18. sasquatch76

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    I've never had a problem with mine. Of course I load my own .45LC. I've put the better part of 1000 rds. through it and accurately too. I do recommend the federal .410 Handgun shells over any other regular shotgun shells, they're way more accurate. Sorry you had those problems, if that happened to me,damn right I'd be pissed.
     
  19. MACV_SOG

    MACV_SOG New Member

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    Very unusual for a revolver! It's the "usual" dependability of a revolver that some choose them over automatic pistols. And the main reason I own revolvers. They don't jam! The theory is the spool should handle high grain rounds but It wouldn't suprise me if you were firing high grain rounds? But you should be able to!! I have. Taurus Millennium I've pushed over 1000 rounds of above average grain rounds through but I try to avoid the highest grain rounds available. Although I have a few boxes of 7.62x39's. It's why the 50 caliber revolver only has five chambers. Best of luck in your endeavor!
     
  20. Brue182

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    I have heard the cylinder jamming issue on 410 loads is due to using cheaper ammo causing the plastic casings to expand after the shot. Most jamming issues are fixed (again with 410 loads) by using higher quality ammo such as federal or Winchester. Just what I had seen I don't own one though. Thinking of getting one for the simple amusement. They are going for right around $450 on cheaper than dirt for a stainless public defender. Way less for polymer but I can't justify a polymer revolver.