Dillon Square Deal B in 9mm

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by aandabooks, May 29, 2014.

  1. aandabooks

    aandabooks New Member

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    I currently load on a Lee 4 hole turret press and do ok to get in the 150 per hour range. I prime off the press. My son has recently started competing and has been practicing for a while. Our consumption of 9mm is elevating significantly. My reloading guru is recommending a Square Deal dedicated to 9mm. He is a Dillon dealer. The other 5 pistol calibers and 3 rifle calibers would stay on the Lee Turret.

    Here are a couple questions:

    1. Does it seem like a Square Deal is the way to go given my needs?
    2. Is a case feeder/bullet feeder a potential future option on the Square Deal?
    3. Is $379 the going price or are better price available?
    4. Could a solid case be made for spending the extra $$$ to get a 650?
    5. How much width does a Square Deal need on a bench?
    6. Would I be better off looking at a Hornady AP press?

    I have a limited amount of space if I want the Lee to stay permantly mounted to the bench. The Dillon would have to be taken on and off the bench when needed.
     
  2. therukh

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    Dillon all the way

    Well, those are some excellent questions. My short answers are: yes, no, yes, yes, less than a foot & no. lol Now, seriously, a Square Deal dedicated to 9mm is what I have and I feel it can't be beat, but I feel if you spend the extra for the 650 you will take your Lee off the bench before long and only use the 650. The Dillon's are so good and so easy to use, you'll find yourself wondering why you ever used anything else.
     

  3. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    1. No. Its pretty much the same speed as your current four hole press. Its component handling that's slowing it up

    2. No

    3. Probably

    4. Yes. You can use existing dies on the 650 changing calibers is fast once you have done it a few times. Loading pistol or rifle is fast if I didn't mention it. You only need to handle the bullets if you go with a case feeder.

    5. Bout the same as the current setup. If you go 550 or 650 you can put the other pressin a box and not worry about it...

    6. Definately not. Its not even a serious consideration compaired to any dillon.

    If you go with a 650 you won't ever need to put the other press on the bench... the 650 uses standard and dillon dies. I don't recomend the square deal because you only use special dies in pistol calibers. Its the only press dillon makes I don't like. The 650 is a bit pricey but its worth it. Especially with roller handle bullet tray strong mount and case feeder.
     
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  4. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member

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    You can go at a comfortable pace and do about 300 rounds an hour with the SD. If you hustle you can do 400.
     
  5. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Active Member

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    I made an offer on a SD on another forum's classified. It did not work out, someone else bought it.

    I just did not want to be locked into straight neck, pistol only for that kind I'd investment.

    YMMV
     
  6. anm2_man

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    As JonM stated, the biggest down side for the SDB is proprietary Dies. They work only with the SDB. I think the SDB does have dies for about every pistol caliber known. But if you want to upgrade the SDB to a 550/650/1050, you have to sell the dies and start over.

    I started on a 550b and used it for 16 years. I had tool heads + dies for at least 6 pistol caliber and 3 rifle caliber. But reloading rifle cartridges on these presses is a 2 state process. Thats where you loose the most time. But on a 650, you can get a case feeder that does rifle cartridges. SO the time I lost by handling the rifle brass twice on the 550, I saved it because of the 650 with a case feeder. When I upgraded to the 650 7 years ago, I kept all of the dies and sold the 550 and all of the toolheads. I sold the press for more than I paid for it in 1988 along with the empty tool heads.

    The real question is "Are you ever going to load rifle cartridges" ? NO = 550b YES = 650.
     
  7. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member

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    no rifle should = SD not 550b. You can load rifle cartridges on the 550b.
     
  8. Eagle1803

    Eagle1803 New Member

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    A 650 all the way....you will not regret.:D
     

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  9. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member

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    Anything Dillon and you won't regret.
     
  10. aandabooks

    aandabooks New Member

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    Went with the SDB in 9mm. Working on getting it setup now. Bell was set way too heavy but the primer system seems like it's going to be nice. Should have it up and running by tomorrow. Need a couple bolts to get it attached to the bench solidly.
     
  11. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member

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    Something that will make your SDB very handy is the strong mount and bullet tray. I couldn't believe what a difference that bullet tray made. I have it on the 550 too.
     
  12. Oldgoat03

    Oldgoat03 New Member

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    I agree a strong mount and bullet tray are nice. A good light so you can see in the powder charge in the case is a must in my opinion.

    I have the Dillon strong mount / bulet tray for my 550. I have the "In-line Fabrication" strong mounts, bullet & brass trays and light for my SDB and they are great!

    I've have my SDB for years and I'm sure you will enjoy yours.

    OG03
     
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  13. aandabooks

    aandabooks New Member

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    What light do you have? There is not much room to put a light.
     
  14. Oldgoat03

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