Did alot of soul searching lately.....

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by SGT-MILLER, May 2, 2009.

  1. SGT-MILLER

    SGT-MILLER New Member

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    Troubled by the current problems our nation is facing, and the corruptness that has been spreading across the Republicans and the Democrats alike, I found myself wondering, where do my political loyalties lie? I am not a Democrat, and for the longest time I considered myself a Republican.

    Lately, I have found that the GOP is about as corrupt as the Democratic party, and I cannot, in good conscience continue to be aligned with the republican party.

    I have performed alot of research, and I decided that it's time to dump the republican party as my affiliation.

    I have decided that I am now going to affiliate myself with the Independent American Party. This group has the values that are closest to my own, which I hold dear.

    Some of you may wonder "Why?????". I have to be honest with myself, and I have to be true to my beliefs and morals. The Republican party and the Democratic party has failed, both ethically, and morally.

    If any of you wants to research the Independent American party, feel free to do so. Here's the website.

    Platform of the Independent American Party

    God Bless.
     
  2. Jo da Plumbr

    Jo da Plumbr New Member

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    Always been an Independent.
     

  3. skullcrusher

    skullcrusher New Member

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    I feel your pain, SGT.

    I have been looking at the Independents, Libertarians and the Constitutionalists.

    Here's the delima. While I have always been conservative and proud of it, it seems that no party has 100% of my personal beliefs. I don't think it exists for anyone in reality. I do know that a liberal (huge gubmit) party is in no way in line with by beliefs. I suppose I will have to go thru a process and deeper searching of what is most important and who feels the same.

    Anyone got the moola and connections to start a Reaganite party?
     
  4. chopkick

    chopkick New Member

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    Sarge, I made the move to the Independent Party last November. I too was disgusted with the GOP whom I had stood by through thick and thin. Believe me, it was a painful thing to do.
    But I looked at my decision the way that Pat Buchanan did when he moved to the Independent Party. Pat stated that he didn't leave the GOP, the GOP left him.
     
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  5. hunter Joe

    hunter Joe New Member

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    Hey Sarge if you have not seen this link yet, check it out. You 100% right that the Republican party has somehow gone awry in the last 200 years and I believe that the framers of the Constitution would find the Republican party foreign to them if they were alive today. We need to all stand together and re-align our party or at least return to the values and the truths that our forefathers found so precious.

    The American Form of Government
     
  6. dnthmn2004

    dnthmn2004 New Member

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    I have done the same about two years ago. I don't 100% agree with either republicans or democrats.

    I was raised in a democratic family and state, then when I was old enough to realize that there are some f*ckin nutjob democrats, I slowly turned to the republican side. Then I realized that there are some f*ckin nutjob republicans. So I consider myself an independent. I'm not a 100% independent because I don't trust in republicans and democrats 50/50.

    I hate voting, because the three times I have voted, I didn't want to vote for either candidate. Lewis Black said it best for the 2000 election, "When you went into that voting booth, you had a choice between two bowls of sh1t, the only difference was the smell." Writing in someone is a useless vote, and I don't want a psychotic democrat in office, so I vote republican. Of course, living in a severely blue state, my votes have never mattered, so I'm considering writing in random people from now on, especially dead people.
     
  7. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I was raised as a Democrat in a Democratic family. I became non affiliated/DTS when the Dems went way over to the Left. I then joined the Republicans so I could vote in Primaries. As a DTS (Decline to State), I had no vote in Primaries.

    Now, since this latest and ultimate fiasco with Ebonics and McCan't, I am unaffiliated once again.

    I like the Independent Party and some of the Libertarian platform and some of the Constitution Party. I will likely ultimately join the Independents. I favor their approach more than any other party.
     
  8. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    I think you did right, my friend. I too have been struggling with these issues and I'm about to jump off the Republican band wagon.
     
  9. skullcrusher

    skullcrusher New Member

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    What happens when you know your candidate has no chance of winning? Do you say later that at least you did not vote for the guy, or do you just accept that your party has no voice at all?

    That is where I am currently. Seems to me that another change of party platforms is in order. But, to whom do you align your affiliation? Imo, voting for someone who will never win is the same as voting for the enemy...see Barack Hussein Obama and William Jefferson Clinton (2x's).

    How can the best country in the history of the world suck so much?

    I wanna know.
     
  10. BPond

    BPond New Member

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    Good on ya, Sgt. I'm a registered member of the Constitution Party, and have been since 2003. The last time I voted for a Republican was GW in 2000.
     
  11. dog2000tj

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    Sorry to hear about your pain Sgt. But remember that there is nothing wrong with you and to feel as you do is completely normal.

    I have felt this way since my early teens. From the time when we learned about government and politics in high school I realized that there was no political party or government that represented me.

    Don't feel the need to make an apology for how you feel or what you do. :)
     
  12. dirtbikingdad

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    I honestly do not know where this is going to stop. It seems that all politicians are in it for themselves. At least the ones in power today. My affiliation has not always been GOP. When I was young and dumb, Clinton caught my eye, and since I hated Reagan (for personal reasons) and he (Clinton) spoke to the young generation, I voted Democrat. However, as I began to have a family and was told that oral is not sex and my kids could not watch the news, AND folks dying left and right (who knew the Clintons)and ball faced lies were told, and secrets GIVEN away, I shifted away from the dark side. :p

    So, where are we and what options do we really have? Can a non-GOP or non-Dem win the presidency or other national public office? I kind of doubt it. Heck, maybe it's my thinking and people like me, that will always keep that from happening. You see, I cannot stop thinking about Ross Perot. Anyway, it seems the elected politicians have forgotten the people and that they are there to do a job and that job is for them to vote the way we tell them to. They are not elected by lobbyists, nor are they to vote independently of what they want! What is it going to take for things to come back around? Well, I feel we are almost there. The Tea Parties were the first step and the next step will be something in between that and our elected officials being drug out of office by the people who put them there. :eek:
     
  13. canebrake

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    The problem is that we no longer have a two party system.

    The majority of politicians today are left of true center.

    The time has come to abandon both and I think we will soon start to see this "new" party emerge. I just wish it would hurry up and happen.

    If it doesn't I think our next leader will be a returning Jewish carpenter!

    I just hope we don't give him as much trouble as others have!

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  14. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I think that there are many, many folks who are fed up with "politics as usual". The Tea Parties were a start. I felt that although Tea Parties may have been focused on taxes and the bailouts, the undercurrent was disgust with the whole system and the usurpation of our rights. We may be reaching a tipping point.

    Stay active, stay alert and be flexible. We live in interesting times.
     
  15. Major Kusanagi

    Major Kusanagi New Member

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    I have been a registered independent ever since I was 18. Imagine spending your entire high school and college undergrad years going against the tides of both party and political indoctrination. It's tough, but I feel more like a free man, than a slave tied down to some trivial two party and political philosophical system. In all honesty, it doesn't surprise me that more and more people are going that way today, and I hope the trend continues. Maybe then we as a nation, as a people can take our country back. Now, if I could only hope that my generation can get off this internet blogging, liberal crazed phase would the world be good.
     
  16. cpttango30

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    What happens when you know your candidate has no chance of winning?

    If everyone that said that voted for someone other than Rebublicans or democraps we might not have this stupid mess we are in now.

    Look at Ross Perot I think he would have made this country a much stonger in the long run. That is why I voted for him.

    We as people must stop voting ford or chevy and bring in a toyota or honda. Because if Ford and chevy are not working then dump them. I think more people need to vote their heart and not Republican or democraps. If this happend you would see more people voting and the system would work much better.
     
  17. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    I am disgusted with all the "business as usual politics". Maybe going Independent is the answer, or maybe we just need to clean house in our party. I don't really know what the best solution is.

    There will always be conflicts and disagreements, and there will always be corruption and scumbags on Capitol Hill.