Detroiters defending themselve more and more

Discussion in 'Firearms in the Media' started by JWagner, Mar 28, 2014.

  1. JWagner

    JWagner New Member

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  2. Overkill0084

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    Fatal self-defense shootings on rise in Detroit

    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/...roit-homeowner-kills-2-suspects-home-invasion


    Money quote:

    Righteous self defense shootings are a wonderful thing.
     

  3. WonderingMind

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    I am going to make a bet that crime is going to start sharply declining in Detroit especially after the removal of so many criminal scum bags from the gene pool. Although it may take a year or so for the numbers to really start dropping as fast as the bad guys..
     
  4. robocop10mm

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    The amazing thing the media does not cue in to is you drop one goblin and crime drops disproportionately. One criminal can commit 10 crimes a day. Put down the right one and over 30,000 crimes are prevented.

    Texas noticed this a few years back. They built enough prisons to keep the hard corp criminals locked up for more time. Crime went down. Locked up they cannot commit crimes
     
  5. orangello

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    I have to wonder if maybe a discount range opened up in Detroit to help improve citizen aim.


    Cannot commit many crimes against most people. We can't discount inmate innovations and ingenuity. ;) But seriously, of the few people I know who have done enough time in county or at the "state farm" to have been considered a real inmate, most agree the drugs on the inside are more limited and expensive but of exceptional quality, probably due to limitations on transport quantities, only so much room in the trunk so-to-speak.
     
  6. AIKIJUTSU

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    It's good (also unusual) to have a chief of police who agrees that citizens have a right to defend themselves. So many high-ranking police administrators think people should be willing victims.
    Give this guy an A+.
     
  7. partdeux

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    The number of self defense has not necessarily gone up, but the media reporting of it has sky rocketed. To that, I owe to the Chief putting it out to the media.
     
  8. WonderingMind

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    Is criminal on criminal crime tracked? I would think that a fair portion of murder, assault and such is done by criminals on criminals. Perhaps if that stat was tracked then the overall crime statistics would look better. A lot of the crime we hear about locally in and around Tucson is drug related in some way or manner.
     
  9. clr8ter

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    Interesting article. I wonder what the difference is between Detroit and say, NYC or Chicago? (Other than a Police Chief who smells air instead of crap when he breathes...) Good for him, they should give him a raise.
     
  10. Mosin

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    Does anyone think Detroit will ever recover?...
     
  11. John_Deer

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    I am all for fencing off Detroit and turning into a home for career criminals.
     
  12. Overkill0084

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    Not in our lifetime, maybe not ever.
    50+ years of liberal rule will be hard to turn around. Right now they won't even acknowledge the cause: Liberalism/Socialism doesn't work. Never has, never will. But no, they will continue to blame "white Flight" and "the Man" or whatever cultural/racial boogeyman they can come up with... as long as they can continue to ignore the truth for a few more years.
     
  13. AIKIJUTSU

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    Detroit began to die along with the big auto manufacturers. And they died because the Asian and European companies could make cars and ship them over here at lower prices than the American cars, and they lasted longer than the American tubs that were designed, engineered, and manufactured with planned obsolescence as a primary objective. If GM, Ford, and Chrysler could finally come up with competitive products, there may be some hope. Much of the crime and decadence is a result of extreme poverty caused by the massive loss of jobs. So now the people turn to drugs, gun trafficking, prostitution, and other crime to replace the lost income. The population of Detroit has dropped from 2.1 million to about 700 thousand.
     
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  14. WonderingMind

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    If GM made still made cars like the one below they wouldn't have a problem selling them.

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    Too bad they decided to make the volt instead..
     
  15. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i love seeing pictures of your Buick! that is a very good looking car sir!:D

    and i don't care if gas were $10 a gallon, i'd still rather drive that than a Volt!:cool:
     
  16. JimRau

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    Wonderful, really?? I have been involved in several 'righteous self defense shootings' in my life and I can say there was absolutely nothing 'wonderful' about them. I am very thankful they ended with 'right' winning out over 'wrong' so I am not one bit sorry for the out come but the situation from start to finish was 'bad' but it ended right!:confused:
    I am sure you mean well, but that is a very poor choice of words.:)
     
  17. clr8ter

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    I am too young to have owned a car like the one pictured above, but from what I hear they were total POS's.

    Now, GM & other US car manufacturers DO currently make models like that. Charger, Mustang, Challenger, Camaro. And the body styles even remind me of the old ones. But are they still POS's? I don't know. But I only buy Toyota, myself.
     
  18. WonderingMind

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    I would imagine that the emotional cost of even a righteous shoot would be heavy, but on the other hand results of a failure to defend one's self would be much steeper. I am very glad that you have ended up on the right side, and even happier that you COULD defend yourself no matter the end cost.

    The old Chevy 350 power plant was built to start and run every time under horrendous conditions. The old cars were built to run on roadways that were just up from dirt cart paths and were made of good old fashioned American Steal. They were meant to be driven every day and they were not meant to be replaced when the warranty ran out. So no, most of the old cars were not POSes. There were some exceptions to this rule but they were few and far between and the companies responsible were rightly consigned to the trashcan of economic history and did not get taxpayer handouts to keep them alive. Those companies lived or died by the decisions/policies of management and the diligent, skilled and hard work of the factory hand. Failure at any point led to unemployment for everybody.

    I am the third owner of that Buick and I paid $2500.00 for it in 1997 then spent about $40k (not counting labor) on the restoration. That places my car in the rough price bracket of a Cadillac SUV or a higher end car. I see dozens if not hundreds of those everyday, so what I have is not out of reach of anyone who can afford to save a $200 a month for a few years.

    Such a car however, requires a different world view then a new one. You can't just jump into a car like that, it requires a higher level of maintenance and care simply because of the age of the car and the pride of owning one.

    Older cars were mostly made to a higher standard back in the 50's and 60's reflecting the higher moral values of the time IMO. It was a common thing for a person to hold on to a new car for years, carefully maintaining it at as near to showroom condition that a daily driving car could be. As a kid I remember going out every weekend to help my Grandpa wash and maintain his 1949 Chrysler be bought new.

    I think modern cars are a good "Canary in the Coal Mine" indicator of the some of the problems faced by 21st Century Patriots. Modern cars like modern government is designed to be more cumbersome and less easily repaired then the older better built cars. Like being able to fire ATF agents who burn down buildings full of women and children I am unable to repair the fuel management system of my wife's 2012 Kia HamsterCar. While with just a few tools and a couple of hours I can pull, rebuild, reinstall and tune the carburetor in my Buick.

    Further, Government gives us what THEY think we need rather then what we WANT. The Chevy Volt is prime example of this phenomenon, who wants an electric car that gets worse fuel mileage then my son's 1969 VW Bug? I sure as heck don't want to spend $40k one when I can go get a Bug for a thousand bucks. But then again I am a cranky and cantankerous man who in the end just wants be left alone by the powers that be and free to pursue my own happiness as long as I don't infringe on others by force or fraud.

    New cars like Government have "Planned Obsolescence" built into the very design at its deepest levels. How can government justify its overbearing existence without a new crisis of its own manufacture? Just like how can a Government Motors executive justify building a car no one wants and other cars of lower quality and higher costs just to feed the union parasites that sicken and kill otherwise healthy companies? (Hostess anyone?)
     
  19. clr8ter

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    Well, my statements concern late 60's to late 80's domestic cars, and early 90's to current foreign cars. Although, foreign cars nowadays are pretty domestic. All I know is that when I was a kid, my parents had a Pontiac of some sort, then a Chevy Vega, then a Chevy Citation. I had a Ford Escort, and a Monte Carlo LS. The latest model in that list was the Monte, an '87. NONE of these cars made it more than 60K miles before starting to crap out and needing (major) work. I take it back, the Ford went about to 90K, and then all bets were off. It cost me a fortune after that. So my parents switched to Honda in '89, and I switched to a '94 Toyota. We've never looked back. WAY more mileage with WAY less work. That's in addition to the troubles with domestic vehicles that I see people I know continue to have to this very day.
     
  20. therewolf

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    IMHO, people should defend themselves...:)