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  1. Burt Gummer

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  2. MisterMcCool

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    They are banned in the state of New Jersey. That’s a state law. Other states do not prohibit hollow point bullets or ammunition.
    (Isn’t the firearms act of 1968 a British law?)
     
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  4. manta

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    Yes.
     
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  5. SGWGunsmith

    SGWGunsmith Well-Known Member Supporter

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    There is the U.S. Gun Control Act of 1968. Don't think you can have bullets in Britain, you gotta use "whistles" and hope like made you don't inhale and swallow that little pea inside your whistle. :eek:
     
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  7. Sniper03

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    Never heard they were illegal except for those anti Constitutional States like NJ.
    We carried them for years on the Metro Police Department. But in Court testifying, we referred to them as Controlled Tip Expansion Bullets. The slick attorneys would say does it not say Hollow Point? And we would respond that is not the reason we carry them. We carry them because they have controlled expansion which prevents others from getting injured if we have to use them. Use to thoroughly PO the attorneys! Because no matter what the called them we would never refer to them as HOLLOW POINTS! Only Controlled Tip Expansion Rounds.;)

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  8. c3shooter

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    ONLY the state of NJ places limitations on HP ammo. NJ WILL permit possession of it in your home or place of business. In all other states, it is pretty much the standard for defensive handgun ammo.

    SGW- lighten up and quit picking on our cousins. Or I'll tell the German lady you said her apfelstrudel is not as good as your momma's was.
     
  9. Hookeye

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    Not all hollowpoints are for rapid or even moderate expansion (example: some match bullets).

    One can get non hollowpoint bullets that are quite frangible (example: polymer tip varmint bullets).

    I've shot deer w .44 mag hollowpoints in rifle, pistol and muzzeloader.
    They killed the deer dead but were nothing spectacular.
    Even using the Remington 240gr with more exposed lead up front (scalloped jacket).
    100gr FFg in .50 cal (dunno what my velocity was).....they just whistled through. Accuracy was great in my Knight muzzleloaders, but a double lung shot had them run a bit.

    Liberals and television have done much to demonize firearms and try to change the laws of physics (and of this fine country).
     
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  10. armoredman

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    Heck, you can get quality molds and cast your own hollow point bullets! :)
     
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  11. Burt Gummer

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  12. Hookeye

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    Shoot water jugs with varmint bullets from rifles if you want real fun.

    At least the movie Burt Gummer had a decent attitude.
     
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    Gun Control Act of 1968 was lifted straight out of Germany 1934 Gun Control Act. It's literally word for word duplicate.

    Hollow point bullets are a safer ammunition for self defense. They stop the threat, and also stop their forward movement.
     
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  16. JimRau

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    Shoot big wet cow pies with varmint bullets if you want a 'cheap' date!!!:D They explode just like prairie 'rats' do!:cool:
     
  17. Hookeye

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    Have tested some JHP on deer LOL
    Coup de grace, .44 mags up close............have gotten jacket separation w bullets lighter than 240 gr.
     
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  19. Hookeye

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    180 and 200gr Hornady XTP. Up close they don't hold up.
    Out a ways they zip through.
     
  20. Hookeye

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    I never shot the old Silvertip 210's on deer, but out of my Old Model SBH they shot FANTASTIC and I killed a few chucks with them out to 50 yards or so.
    It anchored them quite well (went through).

    Chucks being pretty shock resistant, you really need to hammer em, lest they make it down the hole and get scored as a miss.

    "gotta have the body or it doesn't count".
     
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