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Makes me question why people do not vote them out.
Bread and circuses, IMO. Too many are addicted to them.

But with policing, they're playing with "fire" by treating the decisions for the rule of law so lightly. People need to belly up to the bar, personally, to take personal responsibility for their own safety and security on a daily basis. And people need to seek hard-hitting, effective, and more importantly efficient policing above and beyond what they themselves do (for the investigative stuff people are essentially barred from accomplishing themselves, for all the obvious reasons).

Such people who push actual defunding are going to find what it means to have far too few resources for any semblance of protection. May they learn the lesson well. May they finally pull the finger out and take reasonable steps to correct things, instead of what merely sounds good.
 

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Seattle cut the police budget by about 20%. That does not meet my definition of "defunding" the police. If the city executives decided that the police budget was bloated, that is their responsibility. In case folks haven't noticed, a lot of municipalities have had to cut spending because their tax revenues are in the tank because of Covid. The police are going to have to do the same kinds of things the rest of us are having to do; pulling that belt in a notch, a department policy akin to having one less donut a day.
 

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Chain, Krispy Kreme, Winchell's and Dunkin Donuts have put a hit out on you. Beware of clowns with pies.
 

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We have way too many cops in America. Take the money and put it into impoverished schools, jobs programs, or how about CUTTING THE DEBT. I guarantee you we’ll have better outcomes.
Agree there are to many police officers in America by far.

That said im not for funneling any more money into our socialist publuc education system.
 

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That got me thinking.

Northern Ireland 382 PSNI officers per 100,000 inhabitants, how does America compare.
Using current U.S. population estimates of 330M and an estimate of 750K LE officers (across the country), that's ~227 LEOs per 100K population. (Uncertain what the actual number of LEOs is, so the 750K is an estimate from several years back.)

I know of a handful of ~1000-2000 person towns in the Western U.S. where there are (or were) only several LEOs in such towns. But then, fiscal realities ended up not being able to afford that many. In some, the roles were ditched and the people strongly advised to take serious precautions themselves for their own protection. (Not that a couple officers in a town of 1000 can do much to 'protect' people anyway, but still.) Of course, the cities and larger towns aren't like that.
 

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If we had FAR FEWER lawyers, and far harsher jails, we wouldn't need as many po-leese!
 

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I can’t remember being abused by the police. Get a speeding ticket and some people think they are in a police state. I watched the protests (riots) all summer long and can definitely say I could never muster up the amount of restraint those officers did.
 

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ask the Minneapolis city council how well defunding the police has worked out for them!!
Only a MORON would want to DELetE the police and then cheer on antifa and blm and all the other marxist outfits.
Give me your GUN too !! (why not?? hell you won't need it)
 

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Restraint???!!!??? I saw those cowards drive over peaceful protesters.
You call that restraint? Cuz I call it Tiananmen Square part 2. And as far as those protests being riots- the overwhelming majority of them were completely peaceful- which is something that you have the right to do in America (sorry you don’t like the First Amendment), and many of those riots were started by white supremacist boogaloo pieces of $hit. And you don’t think we live in a police state? Cops can arrest and detain you without cause (they seem to not understand habeas corpus), they can search you without a warrant, the government spies on you and collects all your data, cops can shoot you and kill you for no damn reason and then they’ll get off free because police unions protect the America gestapo we have now with infinite money and can basically use that to extend litigation until you go bankrupt, every police department in the country has armored vehicles, machine guns, explosives, etc, hell- cops can commit a home invasion (which they have cutely named a “no knock raid”- but I call it a home invasion) on the wrong house- start shooting- and if you shoot back because you don’t know it’s the police because they don’t say who they are- you go to jail and your girlfriend gets killed (Breonna Taylor), and if you protest at all, they come out in full riot gear with machine guns, tanks, etc like they’re about to invade Normandy (remember when America used to fight against the nazis) and they’ll drive over crowds of people and do drive bys with pepper spray. And then the cowards have the audacity to scream about there BS “war on cops”- there’s no war on cops- the cops have a war on us. Hell- even kneeling during the national anthem makes them scream like the little snowflakes they are.
Those were not peaceful protestors.
 

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Bull, never realized that you were such a hard-line extreme left joe biden liberal. Rant on, comrade!:D
 

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What about the hundred other videos showing the”peaceful protesters “ surrounding cop cars, throwing bricks,and burning store fronts. I get it you don’t like cops but don’t tell me I didn’t see what I clearly saw.To call these people freedom fighters is really a stretch and calling USA a police state is just bizarre.
 

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Who do you think are the ones coming to take your guns? The postal workers? No- it’s the cops. If they come to take our guns- it’ll be the cops knocking on our doors
Wrong, it will be the politicians!!
I know a few cops. The ones I've asked, they said they would turn in their badge before they would even go to the first house to collect someones firearm!!

I was making light of the Minneapolis council people. They should TURN in their guns.... they WON'T need them right? I mean if there are NO cops, then there will be NO crime, right??
Sure as hell not where I live. I left Minneapolis a LONG time ago. They were NUTS back then. I think they are trying to give San Fransicko a run for the money!!!
 

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What about these ones?

And these ones?
https://mobile.twitter.com/jordanuhl/status/1266193926316228609?lang=en

These ones?

Getting authoritarian enough for you yet? Here’s a compilation
Dont get me wrong. The actions of about a dozen cops in differnt places were criminal and what kicked off this whole mess.
That said other than a few isolated instances blm and antifa protests havent been peaceful or anything resembling peaceful.

Honestly the only peaceful ones have been in smaller towns where the armed citizenry turned out in large numbers to assure things stayed peaceful.
 

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Some folks want to destroy this country, and have the gall to call themselves patriots.
 
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