'Defunding' Police -- Seattle slashes budget for policing

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by G66enigma, Dec 1, 2020.

  1. G66enigma

    G66enigma Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Bread and circuses, IMO. Too many are addicted to them.

    But with policing, they're playing with "fire" by treating the decisions for the rule of law so lightly. People need to belly up to the bar, personally, to take personal responsibility for their own safety and security on a daily basis. And people need to seek hard-hitting, effective, and more importantly efficient policing above and beyond what they themselves do (for the investigative stuff people are essentially barred from accomplishing themselves, for all the obvious reasons).

    Such people who push actual defunding are going to find what it means to have far too few resources for any semblance of protection. May they learn the lesson well. May they finally pull the finger out and take reasonable steps to correct things, instead of what merely sounds good.
     
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  2. rn-cindy

    rn-cindy Well-Known Member

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    That painting with kind of broad brush...but depending on the group, could be true.
     
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  3. Chainfire

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    Seattle cut the police budget by about 20%. That does not meet my definition of "defunding" the police. If the city executives decided that the police budget was bloated, that is their responsibility. In case folks haven't noticed, a lot of municipalities have had to cut spending because their tax revenues are in the tank because of Covid. The police are going to have to do the same kinds of things the rest of us are having to do; pulling that belt in a notch, a department policy akin to having one less donut a day.
     
  4. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Chain, Krispy Kreme, Winchell's and Dunkin Donuts have put a hit out on you. Beware of clowns with pies.
     
  5. Notrighty

    Notrighty Well-Known Member

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    One less donut a day means they only get eleven. I would quit.
     
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  6. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Fixed it for ya!:)
     
  7. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    Agree there are to many police officers in America by far.

    That said im not for funneling any more money into our socialist publuc education system.
     
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  8. manta

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    That got me thinking.

    Northern Ireland 382 PSNI officers per 100,000 inhabitants, how does America compare.
     
  9. G66enigma

    G66enigma Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Using current U.S. population estimates of 330M and an estimate of 750K LE officers (across the country), that's ~227 LEOs per 100K population. (Uncertain what the actual number of LEOs is, so the 750K is an estimate from several years back.)

    I know of a handful of ~1000-2000 person towns in the Western U.S. where there are (or were) only several LEOs in such towns. But then, fiscal realities ended up not being able to afford that many. In some, the roles were ditched and the people strongly advised to take serious precautions themselves for their own protection. (Not that a couple officers in a town of 1000 can do much to 'protect' people anyway, but still.) Of course, the cities and larger towns aren't like that.
     
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  10. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    If we had FAR FEWER lawyers, and far harsher jails, we wouldn't need as many po-leese!
     
  11. Notrighty

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    I can’t remember being abused by the police. Get a speeding ticket and some people think they are in a police state. I watched the protests (riots) all summer long and can definitely say I could never muster up the amount of restraint those officers did.
     
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  12. formerCav

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    ask the Minneapolis city council how well defunding the police has worked out for them!!
    Only a MORON would want to DELetE the police and then cheer on antifa and blm and all the other marxist outfits.
    Give me your GUN too !! (why not?? hell you won't need it)
     
  13. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    Being former LE you likely know that fear of jail usually isnt a deterent because criminsls by and large do not believe they will get caught.
     
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  14. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    Those were not peaceful protestors.
     
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  15. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Bull, never realized that you were such a hard-line extreme left joe biden liberal. Rant on, comrade!:D
     
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  16. Notrighty

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    What about the hundred other videos showing the”peaceful protesters “ surrounding cop cars, throwing bricks,and burning store fronts. I get it you don’t like cops but don’t tell me I didn’t see what I clearly saw.To call these people freedom fighters is really a stretch and calling USA a police state is just bizarre.
     
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  17. Notrighty

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    Back when our founding fathers were living looters were hung. Ye good olde days.
     
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  18. formerCav

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    Wrong, it will be the politicians!!
    I know a few cops. The ones I've asked, they said they would turn in their badge before they would even go to the first house to collect someones firearm!!

    I was making light of the Minneapolis council people. They should TURN in their guns.... they WON'T need them right? I mean if there are NO cops, then there will be NO crime, right??
    Sure as hell not where I live. I left Minneapolis a LONG time ago. They were NUTS back then. I think they are trying to give San Fransicko a run for the money!!!
     
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  19. Ghost1958

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    Dont get me wrong. The actions of about a dozen cops in differnt places were criminal and what kicked off this whole mess.
    That said other than a few isolated instances blm and antifa protests havent been peaceful or anything resembling peaceful.

    Honestly the only peaceful ones have been in smaller towns where the armed citizenry turned out in large numbers to assure things stayed peaceful.
     
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  20. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Some folks want to destroy this country, and have the gall to call themselves patriots.
     
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