Defense plan

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by kalboy26, Mar 25, 2013.

  1. kalboy26

    kalboy26 New Member

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    Had a scare last night when a pan fell off the counter about 3 in the morning (still not sure how it happened, no pets in the house). I first checked my kids hallway and then made my way to the kitchen while my wife stayed in the hallway where she could monitor our kid. Luckily nobody was in the apt, but my wife and I stayed up the rest of the night discussing the best way to act and what we will do next time. It made me wonder, how many of you have plans with your family?

    PS- that 2 seconds opening the nightstand safe feels like 20. :)
     
  2. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Haunted?
    You can pick up security cameras cheap nowadays. Attempt to get into my place and you'll have a gun on you before you make it to the front door.
     

  3. urquidez

    urquidez New Member

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    Well just this morning i was woken up at about 3:30am a loud banging at my front door my wife also heard it but continued sleeping i look out my bed room window and there was someone there banging on my door i grab my 1911 and ran to the door ask who it is but no answer and banging keeps on on going then it stops i look through the peep hole and no one there i open the door and look around no one out side ....wierd right ...
     
  4. urquidez

    urquidez New Member

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    The banging sounded like someone was kicking the door thats how loud it was
     
  5. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    On the pan moving, here is a guess.
    There are vibrations in "solid" sturctures.
    Furnace or A/C unit, refrigerator pump kicking in, air pressure, geological tremors, etc...
    My office has raised floors, and when the A/C is running, you can see tremors in the bottled water bottles.

    Who's that knocking on your door? It's Dave, man.
     
  6. hardluk1

    hardluk1 Active Member

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    I had some "buddies " back when I was around 14 slip over to our house when my folks were gone for a weekend and pull a prank on me. Nieghbor would be around if needed!! I heard some noise and window scratching in our tv room. I jumped up grabbed my shotgun and slide out the front door and ran around the back side of the house not knowing what or who it was. Saws some guys at the back door by then and screamed some fine 4 letter words and fired a shot in the air. They were gone in a flash in the dark and it took a while the next day before one of them said it was my buddies just mess'n with me.

    Those guys were buddies till we all gew up and moved away. Never had any more bull from them. I still today tend to slide out a side door to meet noise's head on. Nothing like scare'n the heck out of a black bear in the dark while its raiding the bird feeders on our porch. Amassing how fast they really can run in the dark.

    I tend to be able to sleep thru a lightning strom with high winds but let something be out of the norm and I am wide awake and with 3 cats they to get all werd when something is not normal for them too. Good early warning system.
     
  7. StainlessSteel215

    StainlessSteel215 New Member

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    Thats wild Kal....what was going through your mind as you woke up and kicked into action? I'm curious as to what your mindset and body did under adrenaline and fear. Might help some of us to know exactly how you went about your house and if you fumbled on anything.

    Very glad it was just a random incident. Weird things happen in homes at night. Ive only cleared my home once in the 3 years Ive been here for a weird noise downstairs but turns out it was my crazy ass cat knocking over a picture frame which hit the floor
     
  8. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You did a Biden?:rolleyes:
     
  9. Doc3402

    Doc3402 New Member

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    Dave's not here.

    Houses also settle. What might have been almost level when the house was built may be even more off level now. The one I always liked was the moving glass or pan when a film of water got trapped under it. I had my daughter believing I was telekinetic with that one.
     
  10. Doc3402

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    I definitely have a defense plan for my home, and since there are no young kids here it doesn't involve a safe. Will I share my defense plan? Nope. Sorry, but not in a public forum.

    I don't know how old your kids are, and I don't know what your local laws are concerning securing your firearm, but many parents I know keep their bedside gun in a key locked cash box. When they go to bed they put the key in the lock, and when they get up they take the key out. This may not be what you and your wife are comfortable with, and it may not meet the requirements of local laws.
     
  11. BeyondTheBox

    BeyondTheBox New Member

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    Grab gun, point, aim, shoot until threat eliminated.

    No children or wife to have to give a sh!t about. Yup perfect life, I know.

    Would only report if in earshot of others. Sadly I usually am.
     
  12. txpossum

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    Wake up to dogs barking madly. Yell at dogs to shut up. Fumble for glasses on nightstand. Yell more at dogs to shut up. Get up, stumble over dogs. Yell at them to shut up. Exit bedroom, bumping into doorframe. Wife is now yelling at dogs. Look through house. Cats are looking innocent. Check to see if teenage daughter is in room. She yells at me. Look out front door - see nothing. Look out back door - see nothing. Tell dogs they are crazy, and SHUT UP. Go back to bedroom. Tell small dog to get out of my spot. Dog growls at me. Move dog, get back in bed. Wife says "did you have to make so much noise."
     
  13. Jorgy

    Jorgy New Member

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    Right back at you. Ha!
     
  14. kalboy26

    kalboy26 New Member

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    First thing that went through my head was "i think that was inside our house". Then instinct kinda kicked in and I grabbed the gun and ran into the hall. I wasn't sure what to do though when I had to decide to head towards the kid room or the noise, and that is where I Hung up. (I now have a plan though) Once my wife was coherent she watched the kids room and I went towards the noise. I surprisingly stayed pretty objective though. Only fumbled getting the gun for a sec :)
     
  15. Jorgy

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    Right back at you. Ha!
     
  16. Rentacop

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    The best way to handle these things is to make up your mind in advance that you will not open the door for anyone or even to see who is out there . Do not go outside to protect property .

    Call 911 immediately if you suspect anything threatening and stay on the line . Hunker down in a covered spot, ideally with a good field of fire, and wait for the intruder to break in and come to you . You can shout a warning before he breaks the door in if you wish .

    Once the intruder is inside the house, operate on the assumption that he is armed an intends to kill you .
    If need be, use a tactical flashlight to positively identify him as the intruder . Do not assume he is alone . Remember that any delay may allow him to take cover and fire on you .
    If you have no gun, shout " Billy, get the gun -I'm calling the police ".
     
  17. Doc3402

    Doc3402 New Member

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    I follow what you are saying, and for the most part agree, but I do have a couple comments.

    1. It may not be a good idea to start shouting out stuff after the intruder has made entry. It can give away your position. So can a flashlight.

    2. The only cover I have in my house is my car out in the garage and my gun safe, and both of those are questionable for being true cover. I have a pile of concealment places, but those two are all the cover I have.

    Because of number two, I don't think number one is a good idea unless you shout before the bad guys get inside.

    You are absolutely correct about staying inside. There is nothing in your yard worth dying over, and leaving your house completely exposes you. Stay cool and stay concealed. Use your brain instead of your emotions.
     
  18. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    If I was asleep my night vision would be active when I awoke. Therefore I would not use a flashlight or turn on a light. I can see pretty well in my home in the dark. And it is my home after all. I know it much better than a stranger.

    There are very few things in a home that can be used for cover. But a full book case would be one. A full freezer of meat would be another. Not really the freezer, but the meat inside.

    I have checked my home a couple times. I simply grabbed my gun from the drawer and slowly went from room to room. Stayed low and sliced the pie. We all hear weird noises from time to time.
     
  19. Rentacop

    Rentacop New Member

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    Rick1967 :
    Checking out a noise is not what I was talking about . The scenerio in question is " Intruder beating on the door " .

    You were quite right to clear the house yourself over a noise instead of calling in a SWAT team .
     
  20. kalboy26

    kalboy26 New Member

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    I've never taken the gun to look outside, but I will be the first to admit to being a nosy neighbor and peeking out the blinds if I think I hear something around my place or the neighbors :) I just think it is important to know how your going to move around and negotiate your own home. I totally forgot about slicing the pie when I cleared mine. It was more of a reckless charge lol.