decocking question

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by Lovegun, Mar 4, 2013.

  1. Lovegun

    Lovegun New Member

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    Is it ok to pull thr trigger when the gun is decocked/in safety?
     
  2. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    I don't know why you would want to do that.

    Some handguns with decockers will go to double action and fire.
    Some single actions (1911s) COULD fire if the safety is taken off. That is one safety test recommended. Put it on safe, pull the trigger, release trigger, take off safe. If it fires, it failed.
    How many 1911s out could fail? I have no idea. What causes the failure? The safety blocks the sear. Should the safety fail to block the sear correctly, the sear could go to a position that it is not properly latched and slip allowing the handgun to fire without a finger on the trigger.
     

  3. HOSSFLY

    HOSSFLY New Member

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    Think i'll just say NO!
     
  4. nosaj

    nosaj New Member

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    My 9mm has a de-cocker but no safety. I keep clear of the trigger at all times....unless it's unloaded or time to go bang.
     
  5. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    The purpose of the trigger is to make the firing pin hit a primer. Its not for checking your safety mechanism.

    While a function check is part of routine maintenence where you check for such things, doing so on a loaded firearm isnt wise.

    Dont tempt the fates, they will often take you up on your offering.
     
  6. 70cuda383

    70cuda383 New Member

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    "Is pulling the trigger to lower the hammer safe?"


    Wasn't one of the universal rules of firearms safety "keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire?" Wouldn't pulling the trigger to lower the hammer violate that safety rule?

    you're asking if it's safe to violate a safety rule? :confused:

    What happens when you pull the trigger to lower the hammer, and it slips out of your thumb and snaps down instead of being gently lowered?
     
  7. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    #1, WHAT GUN? Just throwing a question like that out there with out any more info is just silly.

    #2, I agree the trigger is for ONE thing, making the gun go bang. Using it to test a safety mechanism is like putting your car in park and running the throttle to redline and hoping the transmission does not engage and cause you to run over your own child, Irresponsible at best.
     
  8. Lovegun

    Lovegun New Member

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    Sorry I should have prefaced it. I never actually pulled the trigger. I was giving my baby eagle its first cleaningand I was just wondering what goes on when the gun is decocked (checked to make sure its unloaded) and if the trigger gets pulled. I thought everything was disengaged from the trigger when decocked but google didnt have any answers for me as to how the decocking mechanism worked.
     
  9. FrontierTCB

    FrontierTCB Active Member

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    GOOGLE is a horrible firearms instructor and a pretty $h1tty gunsmith!
     
  10. 70cuda383

    70cuda383 New Member

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    if the gun is unloaded and you know that it's unloaded because you just unloaded it and checked to make sure it was unloaded, and you did not forget to clear the chamber...

    then yea, you could safely pull the trigger to release the sear, and ease the hammer down with your thumb.

    ...is that your question? or do I still not understand it?
     
  11. Lovegun

    Lovegun New Member

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    No the hammer has already been decocked
     
  12. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Does your weapon have a "decocker only" or a decocker safety"

    If it has the safety, the trigger will not fire it if the safety is engaged. If decocker only, the weapon will fire if the trigger is pulled.
     
  13. Lovegun

    Lovegun New Member

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    Its a decocker plus safety. One lever to control them all. It supposedly disengages everything. I was wondering if that was true
     
  14. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Decocker/safety.

    When the safety is engaged, the trigger will not fire the weapon unless the safety is malfunctioning.
     
  15. nosaj

    nosaj New Member

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    Take a trip to the range, point the barrel safely toward the target.....and give it a try
     
  16. Lovegun

    Lovegun New Member

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    Would that have a possibility of damaging the internals
     
  17. ward1973

    ward1973 New Member

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    Quick question what do y'all think of cobra fire arms?
     
  18. Baxter

    Baxter New Member

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    I had a small 380 of theirs, can't remember the model but it was absolute junk. Couldn't make it through a 5 round magazine without some sort of hiccup. It wasn't just one particular problem either. FTE, FTF, you name it. It was a very simple gun yet Could not function. I've heard a lot of horror stories with them. Anytime you pay $150 for a new firearm, it's a crap shoot. Only bought it cause I was out of town (same state)visiting a friend and we decided to go camping. Gun barely made it home with me, almost ended up in the creek! I ended up making it feed a bit better but still had problems every 50 rounds or so. I couldn't even find the audacity to sell it to somebody. I literally gave it away.

    With all that said, I never bothered contacting Cobra Ent. So without having bothered to send It to them, I don't want to give the company to much negative feedback, they very well could have resolved any problems.
     
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  19. ward1973

    ward1973 New Member

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    Thanks for the info I bought a 380 haven't had any trouble yet but that is not saying I won't what gun do you suggest getting for concealed carry? I want something in a 45
     
  20. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister New Member

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    Hell no, unless you are a TSA agent checking to see if the passenger's gun is loaded. Everybody remember that incident?