Declining In Standard of Living?

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by TLuker, Aug 21, 2013.

  1. TLuker

    TLuker Active Member

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    I'm gradually noticing a decline in our standard of living, at least in this area. It seems declining wages and inflation are really starting to show. It's especially showing among the young people. Their cars are getting older and more run down. I can't count the number of vehicles that have to open their doors at drive thru windows because their electric windows don't work. I've also been surprised at how many walk to work because they don't have a car. Every one of them has a smart phone but most don't seem to have much else. They talk about McDonald's dollar menu like most of us use to talk about McDonald's regular menu back when their regular menu was the cheap food. When did copper and steel become valuable enough to actually steal?

    I'm in no way knocking anyone for not having much (I've been there) but it just seems like the overall standard of living is really on the decline for a lot of people and I'm not sure how many have even noticed?

    I was just wondering if anyone else is noticing the same things in their areas? And if so, do you think this going to be a long term trend?
     
  2. TLuker

    TLuker Active Member

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    And the title should be "Decline in Standard of Living" instead of "Declining". It started as "Declining Quality of Life" but then I realized that decline in the standard of living doesn't necessarily mean a decline in quality of life but that's a different can of worms. :)
     

  3. indy36

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    For some reason my buddies seem to be doing fine, but I'm maintaining at best. I am no better off today than 10 years ago. Every company I work for goes under or gets bought. There aren't many companies hiring or training new people. I'm a middle manager with a college degree. Health care costs are hurting my family. That and gas prices. And food prices.
     
  4. TLuker

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    I'm doing ok but only because I don't have to support a family. I'm a quality engineer and not really making any more than when I was a young production worker if you look at what I can actually buy with what I make. If I were a young production worker today I would be hurting even without a family to support. :mad:
     
  5. Vikingdad

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    My standard of living has fallen quite a bit, but I have had many significant life changes in that time as well. Kind of goes with the territory. I am fortunate that I still have a roof over my head- for the time being anyhow.
     
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  6. nitestalker

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    In the Socialist system the elitist take all they want. They then pass laws to control what is left. The New Normal in America is high unemployment and living on government entitlements. Minimum wages and unemployment pay was considered a temporary situation until one could improve his future. Now these are permanent controlled incomes with no future. :(
     
  7. genesaika

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    I'm basically 1/3rd own of a small heavy equipment repair company, so I know what you mean. We haven't had a good job in months. It sucks, but I'm hopeful...

    As to young kids, I'm 23 by the way, I'd say most of the issue is that they don't want to work. It's easier to borrow, steal, cheat, scrap, etc. I know a lot of people around my age and it's like a rampant disease, laziness.
     
  8. jigs-n-fixture

    jigs-n-fixture Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I think you need to actually look up what socialism is: you don't seem to have a clue.
     
  9. rjd3282

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    Not going to get better soon. Obamacare has reduced everybody to part time jobs and it's getting worse. If it isn't stopped it's going to bring this country completely down. The inflation isn't helping either, but hey let's print more money and raise the debt ceiling. How anybody can't see what these liberal democrats are doing is beyond me. When it all comes crashing down it's going to get ugly.
     
  10. rjd3282

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    These guys are far worse than socialist, they are arrogant thieves and liars. Socialism at this point is the least of our worries.
     
  11. colmustard

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    Times are tough. I scrape by. But the Lord has never let me go hungry. I have a roof over my head and a job, I have a wife that loves me and the glory of Heaven to look forward to. I am poor by American worldly standards, I am doing ok by overall worldly standards, and I am wealthy through Christ, love, family and friends. Some may think I am poor but even though I may not have many material positions I am in wealthy in the things that really count.

    I know that Americans are hurting. I make less now than I did eight years ago. I have more bills now than I did eight years ago. I pay more taxes than I use too. I think these worldly standards go in ups and downs. We are just in a downward angle right now and hopefully start climbing soon. Just a ton of changes in many places need to be made, and it may take a while for that to happen.

    Just keep on keeping on and try your best and take refuge in Christ and spend time with your loved ones. These are the things that help a man sleep well at night. Keep the faith.
     
  12. nitestalker

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    I just hate to read these stories of working Americans who are now victims. I grew up in an America where if you worked and saved you progressed in life. The "New Normal" only keeps everyone from achieving their hopes and dreams. :(
     
  13. therewolf

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    Yeah, I'm noticing a decline in my ability to get

    22LR, because Preppers have got a stranglehold

    on the supply.

    HEY, Preppers! DANG! Get a life, how much fargin'

    22LR ammo do you need, really?
     
  14. Vikingdad

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    More. .......
     
  15. therewolf

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    Oh, obviously.

    From the rest of us, thanks a pantload.

    If I give y'all a dollar, can you demonstrate

    just a bit more selfishness? We're going on

    10 months of this sh!t, already.
     
  16. Vikingdad

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    Well, yassee, I haven't bought any more ammo since this all started. Matter of fact I have sold some. But I still want more and will buy it when it is available at a fair price. :cool:
     
  17. WebleyFosbery38

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    My lifestyle has been on the slow slide downward, not living poorly but certainly closer to the bottom income brackets than the upper ones. It strangely coincided with the erection of BHO. Wife became unemployed just after his coronation and its been a struggle to keep any forward mobility since that day. Prices Up, Taxes Up, Fees Up and purchase power down, Income Down, and most economic indicators are either flat or negative.

    Things are pretty shaky, hopefully they will change for the better soon but Im not holding my breath!
     
  18. mountainman13

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    Hell my girl works 30+ hours a week (can't even get 40) and She can barely afford to pay less than half the bills and She has no car. Took her 6 months to find the job. I expect within the next two months my car will die. Then She will be paying to get to work and it will almost not even be worth it. The only kids I see driving Nice cars either clearly got it from daddy or they are all thugged out and driving a new BMW, wonder how they managed that. It's like this state is set up to screw the good kids. If you're an illegal immigrant you get free food, free rent, free phone. If you're a drug addict you get the same and can even go to school for free.
    Who's paying for it? My girl who works and lives well below the poverty level.
    FUBAR
     
  19. Gatoragn

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    j n f, you both may be correct. It appears you are referring to a theoretical definition of socialism.

    'stalker is referring to reality, H. Chavez, the dudes dictating life in Korea, lacked/lack for nothing, The folks living under their socialist leaders, not so much.

    The reality is Socialism is for the people, er sheeple, not the Socialists.
     
  20. NC1760

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    Ha-RUMPH to that one... Almost every other resource piggy-backs on the cost of fuel.... and the big fuel companies are posting (on average) $13 billion (with a big capitol B) in profits per quarter !!!... and getting huge tax breaks to boot from the Fed... Oh, they hold hearings about it (.. wasting more of our taxpayer $$$).. and in the end do nothing... and now with more unrest in Egypt there is yet another excuse for pump prices to rise!!... so get ready and bend over!!

    THAT... coupled with the trade deficits to/with other countries that do not honor ANY agreement or treaty we have WITH them governing said trade.... no wonder we're in this mess. When even the educated and working are struggling... it's time to re-evaluate how business is done.

    The only thing that could save us as a society is preserving (and doing what's best) for the middle class (AKA the backbone of this country) and force our government to STOP looking at them as their expendable cash cows.... and a flat tax (IMHO) would be a good start.

    Okay.. my tirade is over. Please discuss...