DE pricing?

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by Kabraxis, Oct 14, 2011.

  1. Kabraxis

    Kabraxis New Member

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    Went to my LGS today to pick up some batteries for my surefire light. i always look at what they have in stock while im there. i noticed they had a 358 DE. regular price $16xx.xx on sale for $12xx.xx. I've never looked into a desert eagle before or know to much about the pricing. is this a good deal?
     
  2. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I am presuming you mean a .357 Mag DE. They are not the most desireable model. Everyone seems to want the .44 or 50AE models. A .357 can be had for under a grand in excellent condition.
     

  3. Kabraxis

    Kabraxis New Member

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    opps hit the 8 instead of 7. yea thats what im talking about. ya it looked a bit overpriced. its apparently brand new. this place tends to overcharge alot. i bought one gun from there and wont buy another from them. i over paid by $100 on my gun. but they do have the cheapest batteries in town o_O
     
  4. TacticalPrecision

    TacticalPrecision New Member

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    Yeah, the gunstore I visit has a 357 version in stock for 890, solid black model. I think they are a rediculous gun anyway and wouldn't waste money buying one. Leave their sales in the US to the kids with too much money who just want to go out and do stupid crap and waste ammo shooting pop cans.

    Yes I've shot one, You can't double tap, you can't hold targets well at all, and the accuracy is mediocre at best on the .50s especially past about 20 yrds. They are made primarily with the idea that having to shoot someone twice is a waste of a bullet, and Since if you don't have a good grip on it and your wrist isn't in a good position when you shoot them you CAN'T fire a second time because you broke or sprained something it's a good idea to build around.

    Money spent on one of these very overpriced obscenely heavy guns could get you 2 or even 3 guns in its place. For example, you could buy a Raging Bull in .44 Mag and a PX4 in .45 for around 1200 bucks.
    or a Taurus 4510(.45 long colt / .410 shell) and another for the same.

    There are other options too, S&W500 series, the Ruger Super Redhawk, Everything i've listed pretty much is Hundreds if not 1000 cheaper than most of the DE's you'll find. Friend of mine owns a Raging Bull and it's pretty intimidating if that's what you're after.
     
  5. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    I passed on a matte black .50 DE a while back. Immaculate condition, and in the .50 AE round, those are worth just a little bit more, and this one's tag said $1,000 even.

    I didn't have a grand to blow, and could barely wrap my hands around it anyway. 1200 for the .357 is a bit much I think, you could spend much less than that and get a S&W revolver and likely have better better experience with it.

    Deagles are a bit finicky about getting dirty (according to consumer reviews I've read). My uncle had one in .44 mag and got rid of it because he said he had to clean it after every 3rd mag or it wouldn't cycle right.
     
  6. MrWray

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    IMHO to me a desert eagle is just a conversation piece. Awesome range shooter to play around with but has no practical use in the field. Ive shot a .44 DE and it was badass to shoot but i wouldnt want one. The baby eagle doesnt look that bad though and now they make a 1911 thats pretty attractive. Not bashing them, i myself just dont have a practical use for one.
     
  7. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Oh I'd take one in a heart beat. Like I keep saying, if I had the money to blow on senseless stuff.
     
  8. JonM

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    desert eagles are amazingly accurate in all the calibers. my first centerfire pistol was a desert eagle in 357mag. its got less felt recoil and faster on follow up shots than a berreta m9 in 9mm.

    the size makes them impractical for anything revolving around self defense. but for target shooting and hunting they are superb. they are amazingly strong guns i dont think it is possible to make one go kaboom.

    it takes a LOT of practice to get good with one. the 50AE version my wife took over can hit coke cans easily at 100yards open sights. from a rest they are easily moa handguns at 100 yards with a optic.

    anyway the plain black used ones are under a grand right at a 1000$ for the 50ae version.

    some models like the chromed or gold or tigerstriped ones run about 150-200 more. 1600$ for a used one is waaaaaay above new cost.

    barrel length also adds a bit to the price but not much. if that gun comes with conversions for all three calibers its a fair deal.
     
  9. WDB

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    I have to disagree with most of what you expressed. I own a DE .50 and have double and tripple tapped with a 3" group at 20 yards and didn't sprain or break anything. The grip is fine as long as you grip the firearm properly (like all firearms). It's far from a kids gun to do stupid stuff with. It was designed for the qualified shooter that wanted something more. The intent of the pistol was NEVER one round is enough, otherwise it would be a single shot. The weight of the pistol is heavy by design to keep rounds on target. It's isn't practicle or a CC pistol but it is a quality pistol that can and will put multiple rounds into a target or a badguy in the hands of a qualified shooter. Comparing whell guns to the DE makes no sense at all, two totally different platforms.

    The pistol is expensive and the price the OP quoted is high. All the same you can buy a Taurus and a Ruger and a ? for the price of a quality 1911. Truly depends on what you want and your ability to shoot what you buy.
     
  10. Olympus

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    Desert Eagle in .357 Mag just reminds me of a new Camaro with a V-6.

    My old man has an older Mark 7 factory two-tone in 44 Mag with a 6x scope. From a rest at 75 yards, the gun will cloverleaf 5-shot groups all day long. But the gun is too heavy, and top heavy with the scope for any practical applications. My old mans is in pristine shape and he bought it used for $850.
     
  11. TacticalPrecision

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    I'm not going to say I'm the most experienced shooter, but double tap at 20 yards with a .50 and a 3" group is pure BS. I'm calling you on it. If you could do that you'd be a world class competition shooter. Considering a "good" double or triple at 10 yards is a 3-5" spread.
    I can ding a 10" plate at 25 with 10 rounds pretty quick from a .45, but that's a far cry from hitting a 3inch pattern with a gun that the balance changes every shot you fire. It never fires consistently and the action sliding back into battery throws your shot off more than the recoil does because of the nose weight.

    Now, if you want to talk Slow, Paced shooting and a 3" pattern, yes they can do that, but so can most every other pistol on the market. The shooting I did with one was at variable, unknown ranges. It performed adequately, but not spectacularly.

    Currently there are 5 pistols models that performed with superior results in that scenario setting, M&P, Glock(17/34), USP(9mm), M9, and Sig P226. Yep, all 9mms Because the course takes 30 rounds to complete and a gun I had to reload 4 times was too slow. Their .45 caliber counterparts were not far behind but did do worse not because of accuracy, but because addition reloads added time to their results. Between the reload times, the constantly changing feel of the gun and the balance steadily shifting forward more and more heavily, and fatigue by the end of the run it was a shoe in for dead last among the semi-auto pistols. That's not even considering the fact that it's rediculously expensive to shoot. I ran it multiple times with the same rough results, ran one run trying to do quick triple shots at each target and had some straight up misses by the end of the run because my arms were tired from it's weight and recoil.

    You'll also notice in my statement I said "if" you're not holding it right. it'll hurt you. not its going to hurt if you hold it properly.

    If you plan on buying one for it to sit around and occasionally go out to a range and fire a few rounds here and there, fine. But if you intend on carrying it, and putting it to use and maybe using it in a defense role as a WROL sidearm option you're a misguided individual.

    I don't own guns to have mantle ornaments, or fancy picture props for others to see. I own guns to USE them. The DE in my opinion is a rediculous unusable gun. It's too heavy and bulky, too expensive both to buy and to keep up good practice with. Its not a USEFUL gun. I own useful guns primarily, and generally carry one on my hip most of the time when I'm out and about on my property and a CCW when I'm out and about on someone elses property. I lugged that DE around for the better part of a day and it's nothing you want to carry, and nothing you want to shoot A LOT in one day.
     
  12. MrWray

    MrWray New Member

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    Im gonna buy me a DE .50 for CC and buy an ankle holster for it
     
  13. JonM

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    i carried my old de 357 every day in a belt holster. after a bit you get used to the weight. i found it to be almost the opposite of what you describe.

    there are more reasons to buy guns than just useful. i have fun guns and hunting guns and so on. ive got a colt python that i shoot maybe once a year. is it a good useful gun?? yes. but its not one i would consider for anything other than a show and tell piece. same is true of the ithaca 1944 war surlpus 1911 i have.

    just cuz a gun is big or heavy or not perfectly suited to ccw doesnt mean it sucks. there is more to firearms than ccw
     
  14. TacticalPrecision

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    Never said CCW was the only use for a gun, my Open carry is on a drop down molle platform, quick release mount for my serpa on there, tac belt has a knife, multi-tool, extra mags, flashlight, and mini first aid kit. But even on that setup I wouldn't carry a DE, and the .357 version I havn't shot, but i'm sure by the way the .50 was designed it's probably a lot lighter of a gun.

    and as I stated, not everyone is going to go out and shoot 30 rounds out of a .50 DE in around 100 seconds with some running. THEN turn around do that 3 more times in the next 20 minutes and 4 more times 3hrs after that, shooting inbetween that time with high caliber bolt rifles and semi-auto runs with ARs and such. My experience isn't a typical average shooter experience. but running other guns, as I mentioned in my last post, have yielded better results and much less fatigue. Especially carrying 6 mags for that beast(which is my standard loadout for pistols during runs.) Add in the 9 mags for the AR, spare bcg, batteries, hydration pack, pouches with medkit, extra flashlights, rounds for my bolt gun, it all adds up and the .50 DE was just too much weight to carry, about 10 lbs of extra compared to the same loadout with a polymer frame pistol. On a light loadout like my everyday carry rig it would be upwards to twice as much weight if not 3x as much as the M&P45 that get carried on the rig and in my CCW.
     
  15. trip286

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    There was a man in Mexico who had a tumor on his face the size of a basketball. He got used to it too.

    I won't knock the DE anymore than I already have, I'll just agree with you. No it's not perfectly suited for CC.