DCOA Winchester 94

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by rferguson61, Dec 30, 2011.

  1. rferguson61

    rferguson61 New Member

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    So I just got a Winchester 94 30-30...and as a rule I usually fully clean and oil a gun when I first get it (plus this had been sitting for 9+ years so probably needs it). I am just kinda intimidated...its easy to pull a Savage 110 or a Mossberg 500 apart...but the 94 just seems really complicated and like it would be a lot harder. Am I overthinking it? Is it something a beginner should undertake? Im really mechanically inclined...but I don't have years off experience around guns. Thanks
     
  2. The_Kid

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    I've had my Win94 for 30+ years and have never taken it apart. I never had a need to.
    Every 6 months or so I'll apply motor oil to areas that could wear. That is probably all you need to do.

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    That link may help you if you decide to disassemble it.
     

  3. hiwall

    hiwall Well-Known Member

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    A friend of mine takes every gun he buys apart(sometimes he brings them to me to put back together). Unless it is broken or very dirty just leave it together.
     
  4. glockman55

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    I'm one of those Guys that have to see how things come apart. I get in trouble from time to time but thats just me. Try taking apart a Win. Mod 100.
    You can find most anything you want online. If I bought a used gun I would have to dis assemble it and clean it thoroughly. You can always take it to a gun smith, or take it to one first and have him do it for you.. Enjoy your fine Rifle either way.
     
  5. rferguson61

    rferguson61 New Member

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    Thats how I am. And I will thanks!
     
  6. rferguson61

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    So I did it...and I think I screwed up. As a disclaimer I want to say it a good thing I did cuz there was litteraly mud in the gun. I got it all put back together...and noticed two things. First...it seems a lot harder to work the action on the gun. Second...when cocked the trigger flops around (to be honest dont know if it did before) and the "safety" where you have to squeeze the lever or the trigger wont pull isnt working. You can pull the trigger without squeezing on the lever. I will say...I had one hell of a time getting the lower tang and hammer back in. Please help!
     
  7. The_Kid

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    It sounds like you've probably broke something already. Now I'd go with glockman55's "You can always take it to a gun smith"advice.

    Good luck!
     
  8. rferguson61

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    Nothing broke. Ive worked with machines, metal, and all kinda of mechanisms...I know when something breaks. Things just arent lined up right...and it has to do with the hammer

    Edit: I dont think the hammer is the problem. I took it to my dads and the action runs the same its the play in the trigger that's wrong. There's play all the time. Not just when its cocked.
     
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  9. rjdigug

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    Sounds like a weak spring or the wrong spring. Also it could be a wrong screw or pin. They may all look alike but they may have a slight difference in diameter or length causing play or alignment.
     
  10. glockman55

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    Bring it on over, I took the side mounted scope mount off mine when I got it and some how I lost a pin that goes in before one of the side screws, did not function right also, I went on Numrich gun parts, found the schematic for the 94, and ordered the part.. #23, 301280, Finger Lever Pin...not saying thats your problem...but without this pin it acted like something was broke... Does the firing pin fall out the Breech Bolt when you rack the action open? That's part of the lever pin function is to keep the pin in place. Check their sight out..

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  11. rferguson61

    rferguson61 New Member

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    No that pin is in tthere. The action works fine (seems a bit stiff but apparently I used the wrong oil) its the trigger. It has A LOT of slop in it. Neither my Dad or I remember it having that much before...but everywhere I look online it says its supposed to be that way
     
  12. glockman55

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    I just checked mine and it has movement too. cocked and de-cocked.. Never noticed it before.. I'll check my Dads out tomorrow, he has a pre-64, Mod. 94.. got me wondering now..
     
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  13. rferguson61

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    Thanks. It seems like they all do. Someone told me its to prevent accidental discharge while cycling. Im begining to think I just never noticed it (not something I think about when holding a gun...dont usually touch the trigger until I fire) but once I took it apart and got it back together I went over it with a fine tooth comb so anything stood out.
     
  14. BlueTurf

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    I bought my Model 94 new in 1973. I have always been very careful and thorough about cleaning it. It is still in fantastic condition today. I have been able to clean it well without taking it apart. I use long Q-tips and cotton swabs to careful clean the different parts of the action. I don't use Hoppe's #9 for a bore cleaner but I have sure gone through a lot of it for cleaning the different gun parts. It is a great metal preserver. I always wipe off excess oil. Yesterday for the first time I removed the ammunition magazine spring and cleaned the different parts of that mechanism. I have never had the bolt assembly removed from my rifle but it remains very clean and intact.