Dan Wesson/Cz 1911

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by Immortal4419, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. Immortal4419

    Immortal4419 New Member

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    hey all,

    Forgive me if Im missing anything. Im a younger guy, and new here. Just started my collection with an FNP-40 a little while ago.

    Anyways, Ive always wanted a 1911. I like a lot of offerings that Colt and Kimber have out. In stores Ive always enjoyed CZ USA guns. I like the feel, they seem well built. Well today I discovered the CZ Dan Wesson 1911 Valor. I loved the look, I loved the feel. Its expensive but its the one I want. Its between this and a Kimber.

    That being said has anyone fired and of the CZ 1911s? Anyone like or dislike CZ for any reason?
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  2. NGIB

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    While CZ owns Dan Wesson, you'll get a lot more response by asking about Dan Wessons as the brand existed long before CZ bought them. They are at or near the top of the heap for production 1911s...
     

  3. Immortal4419

    Immortal4419 New Member

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    Ok thank you. Will do!
     
  4. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Dan Wesson's 1911's are very well made (in the USA) and use top name parts. Every DW I've had has been an excellent shooter and eye-candy.
     
  5. Immortal4419

    Immortal4419 New Member

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    Do you have any pictures of ones that you've owned?
    Its more than what I would like to spend, but I have always been a go big or go home type of guy. Id rather buy quality once and have it my whole life.
     
  6. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Currently, I have have only one. The C-BOB in 10mm.
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    And this is the other "Bob", From Ed Brown
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  7. Olympus

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    The Dan Wesson 1911s are very good guns. But I feel like the pricepoints on the new Valor models have put DW into another class with more competition. With the older CBOBs, DW had probably the best quality 1911 for the most competitive price. You got a lot of gun for a relatively affordable price.

    But now with the new Valors and the Duty Treatment, prices have jumped to around $1700 for a gun that is going to look exactly like the next that sold. I came pretty close to buying one, but the price tag turned me off. Then I realized that I could have a gun custom built to my exact specs, pick from any number of options, etc from Fusion Firearms for $100 more than the DW. To me, being able to fully customize a gun is worth the extra $100 to me. The drawback is the timeframe it's going to take to have the gun built by Fusion. If you've got patience, I would contact Bob Serva at Fusion and tell him what you're looking for. He will help you design a gun around what you want. If you're a "gotta-have-it-now" kinda guy then the DW will be a good option.
     
  8. danf_fl

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    As a side note: Bob Serva was president of DW before CZ bought him out.
     
  9. CA357

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    I also had a Dan Wesson Commander bobtail. They have a bunch of Ed Brown parts in them and are outstanding pistols. They were under priced for a long time and now are selling for what they are worth.

    It's the only 1911 that I wish I could have back. :eek:
     
  10. Immortal4419

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    hmm this is very cool to know. Im on Bob Servas/Fusions website. So basically you just go down the list and add all the parts you want?
     
  11. Immortal4419

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    Ok, so when its between a Kimber or a Dan Wesson what would you guys choose? I know less about Dan Wesson and I know that Kimber is supposed to be one of the best. I found and really like the Kimber Pro Raptor II and the Tactical Pro II is my fav so far (behind the DW). The Kimber is a couple hundred bucks cheaper and I really liked the feel.

    I like the idea of building one specific, but I may wait and buy my first one.
    :confused: Decisions decisions.
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    Kimber Tactical Pro II
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  12. Gojubrian

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    From stock I would choose the Dan Wesson 10/10 times! :cool:
     
  13. Immortal4419

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    Just for overall quality or ?
     
  14. CA357

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    Me too. :cool:
     
  15. Thomas Carey

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    I would also select the Dan Wesson. Please let us know which one you decide to go with. =)
     
  16. Olympus

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    What I did was set down and list out the specific things I wanted my 1911 to have. Then I went to the website and started looking at all the different pictures. I started adding little touches from numerous different guns that I wanted included in mine. I then emailed Bob at Fusion and emailed him my list of requirements and he drafted up a quote. Total price including shipping was $1800 and some change. It had a lot more options than the DW Valors have.

    But between Kimber and DW, like others have said, it's a no-brainer for the DW.
     
  17. Gojubrian

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    Quality, fit,feel,etc etc etc etc......... You would have to put a lot of money into those kimbers to equal the quality of the DW imo. :cool:
     
  18. Immortal4419

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    Maybe I should look more into a custom 1911. I read the "choosing your first 1911" article and it stated that the Kimber IIs has has some reliability issues.
     
  19. Immortal4419

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    Well im going to run back into the store tomorrow and play with the DW some more. I did notice that the Kimbers seemed to fit my hand really well. (another reason i want to go back and see the DW). I will report back with that tomorrow.

    In terms of searching for a good quality 1911, on to shoot and one for the collection. Am I on the right track? Or am I just way off? I am rereading the articles here to reevaluate myself.
     
  20. danf_fl

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    Changing the grips will give the DW a different feel, too.

    Yeah, I go with the majority and say DW. (And never let it go.)