Dan Wesson 357 vs Ruger Toklak 454

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by WannaBeVagabomd, May 4, 2014.

  1. WannaBeVagabomd

    WannaBeVagabomd New Member

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    So a friend recently offered to sell me his limited edition Ruger, one of 500. The price is reasonable, but I had intentions of getting another revolver, namely the Dan Wesson. Both will be used as trail guns, with the 357 being loaded with backpacker rounds (hot loaded 200 grains). The issue I have is once I leave bear country, I won't have much use for 454 Casull, and the Dan Wesson is versatile in it's interchangeable barrels, so it still be reasonably used as a self defense gun. Any thoughts?
     
  2. aandabooks

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    I would hold out for the Dan Wesson.
     

  3. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    how big is the ruger?? what exactly is it??

    you can download the 454casull chambering by using 45 colt rounds.

    i think 357 is way too light a caliber for bear. minimum handgun round i would feel comfy with is a 44magnum for bears.

    im not a fan of dan wesson guns.
     
  4. WannaBeVagabomd

    WannaBeVagabomd New Member

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    It's a limited Ruger Super Redhawk called Toklat. Looks wise, it's a fair competition between glock and it on the ugly contest. There have been plenty of people who've told me that the backpacker rounds are plenty sufficient for most of what you'll find up here. He's letting me take it for a spin next week, but I'm not really convinced.
     

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  5. 7point62

    7point62 Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I've had some issues with Dan Wesson revolvers...and naturally gravitate toward Ruger based on product quality and ergonomics. Just my 2c.
     
  6. DrFootball

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    My thoughts if it means anything to you: I have a Dan Wesson 41 with 4 Barrels(5,6,10 & 12") and two Grips. 357 is a bit light for most bears, as prior commented. But I'm sure 454 Casull's) are much more expensive. Once many years ago a friend of the Family took out a bear with a 6" 357. It took all of the first 6 to get him down, but still alive and screaming. It took 2 more to the head to finish it. He had no choice as the bear saw the blind and heard their noise and Charged. Had he still been up, his hunting Buddy, one of my Uncles, had a 5 Rd semi auto 12Ga.
    I defer to Vikingdad as he is the only one I know well who knows and has a 454.


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  8. WannaBeVagabomd

    WannaBeVagabomd New Member

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    What issues have been had with Dan Wesson? I've never heard of any.
     
  9. JonM

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    From the reports ive seen its usually cylinder timing and barrel looseness.

    I think they are weak parts wise and not terribly user friendly in a repair it yourself sense.

    An acquantance of mine has one and its constantly having something break on it

    I like ruger revolvers for their rugged simplicity. If you want a good backpack gun get a ruger super redhawk alaskan in 454.

    http://www.ruger.com/products/superRedhawkAlaskan/models.html
     
  10. hardluk1

    hardluk1 Active Member

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    Buy the dan wesson 357 and get a real bear stopper 12ga slug gun for grizzly. With the likes of EWKarms for barrels and parts and LB Customs for some cool grips the DW is far more universal. Damd that chopped ruger srh toklat is ugly and still heavy.

    I have 4 DW revolver and never had an issue with them since 1976.
     
  11. John_Deer

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    I have a DW revolver. I have never had any issues with the pistol but I don't shoot it a whole lot. Unless you have the full set of barrels a DW isn't worth a lot of money. I have seen DW pistols with a single barrel that looked like new go for $450 at auction. I have seen them go real cheap if the pistol had a lot of holster wear.
     
  12. phildenton

    phildenton New Member

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    Im curious as to the various 357 loads different individuals refer to, using the right load can sure make a difference, my chosen bear load is Buffalo Bore 180 gr Lead Flat Nose Hard Cast Gas Checked, granted I only have the one handgun that I use for everything. 4" Ruger Police Service Six; oc, cc, hunting, hiking, snakes when traveling, hd, etc.
     
  13. WannaBeVagabomd

    WannaBeVagabomd New Member

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    The Backpacker rounds were 200 grain, and hot loaded. They're meant to take down pretty much anything up here. That's why I'm not terribly concerned with using 357. I'm not using with the intention of hunting.
     
  14. phildenton

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    What velocity, barrel length, etc [manufacturer of load], I am always open to improving my odds of survival, [as rare as the occurrence may be].