CZ-75 B.... Accuracy.
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It's good. I had a CZ 75B but eventually sold it and still kinda regret it. Todd G at pistoltraining<dot>com wrote a controversial article citing that CZ's have feed problems but I never had any issues. Of course, I kept it impeccably clean.
The Cz feels as good as a 1911 in the hand and is really well balanced. It also looks really good. It's a classic.
There are only two things I did not like about the CZ 75B and those can be fixed. They are:
1. the rather puny iron combat sights. I like Novak and Bomar type sights better but that's just personal preference. Of course you can get better aftermarket sights for them.
2. I did not like the rather stagey feel of the trigger. Also, in single action, the hammer does not break right away. It creeps slightly backwards before breaking. Not a deal breaker but I just think it could be made smoother. I think it's partly the fault of the firing pin block. The SP-01 has a much lighter and smoother pull in comparison to the 75B (although they are the same platform) perhaps due to the absence of a firing pin block. You might also want to either consider a trigger job which will probably fix the stagey feel, or look for a pre-B 75 (without a firing pin block) in good condition although they may be hard to find. Time may also make the trigger smoother with a good break in period. I didn't have the patience to do any of that and wanted something to my liking right out of the box.
I would not discount a CZ 75B as it is a fine pistol. I would still have mine except I don't like collecting a lot of guns *GASP!*.
Just like a 1911, the CZ just requires a bit of work to make it feel right and then you would have an awesome, all steel pistol.
I'll tell you one thing though. It's hard to beat the feel of the CZ 75B in the hand. Certainly not any of the "Tupperware" guns (I own a Tupperware gun so I'm not being anti-plastic).
I like it way more than a Browning HP in the hand. Very few pistols come close to the feel of a CZ except a 1911...hmmm, maybe not even a 1911!
The Cz feels as good as a 1911 in the hand and is really well balanced. It also looks really good. It's a classic.
There are only two things I did not like about the CZ 75B and those can be fixed. They are:
1. the rather puny iron combat sights. I like Novak and Bomar type sights better but that's just personal preference. Of course you can get better aftermarket sights for them.
2. I did not like the rather stagey feel of the trigger. Also, in single action, the hammer does not break right away. It creeps slightly backwards before breaking. Not a deal breaker but I just think it could be made smoother. I think it's partly the fault of the firing pin block. The SP-01 has a much lighter and smoother pull in comparison to the 75B (although they are the same platform) perhaps due to the absence of a firing pin block. You might also want to either consider a trigger job which will probably fix the stagey feel, or look for a pre-B 75 (without a firing pin block) in good condition although they may be hard to find. Time may also make the trigger smoother with a good break in period. I didn't have the patience to do any of that and wanted something to my liking right out of the box.
I would not discount a CZ 75B as it is a fine pistol. I would still have mine except I don't like collecting a lot of guns *GASP!*.
Just like a 1911, the CZ just requires a bit of work to make it feel right and then you would have an awesome, all steel pistol.
I'll tell you one thing though. It's hard to beat the feel of the CZ 75B in the hand. Certainly not any of the "Tupperware" guns (I own a Tupperware gun so I'm not being anti-plastic).
I like it way more than a Browning HP in the hand. Very few pistols come close to the feel of a CZ except a 1911...hmmm, maybe not even a 1911!
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Old pic I posted in this forum of my old beloved CZ and the Tupperware that eventually replaced it.
Yeah, I do miss miss the CZ...I should have just changed those damn sights and dry fired it more! :-(
If you could come up with a little more money I highly recommend any of the SP-01 variants. They spawned from the P-01 which was derived from the 75B. They tweaked the ergos on the 01’s and the P-01 is the only NATO approved pistol available to the public, the U.S. Army "Mean Rounds Between Failure" requirement is 495 rounds for 9mm pistols. During testing of the CZ P-01, the average number of stoppages was only 7 per 15,000 rounds fired…..the SP’s hold 19 rounds as well, this one is the tactical, which means decocker lol
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The legendary grip, and the factory rubber panels blow away Hogue and Pachmyer imo
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Meprolight tritium combat sights
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The BEST service pistol I have ever shot
The legendary grip, and the factory rubber panels blow away Hogue and Pachmyer imo
Meprolight tritium combat sights
The BEST service pistol I have ever shot
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For a service grade pistol they are quite good. They can be tuned for better as well.
http://czcustomguns.com/
http://czcustomguns.com/
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I'm a big fan of the CZ pistols. Personally I like the sp01 models, but they do need a little work. I did a write up that is over in the gunsmithing section on how to polish out the trigger a big.
I would always recommend a Cajun Gun Works Trigger kit, along with springs. You will notice the largest change by swapping out the heavy main spring with a lighter one ( this is across the line up ). A trigger kit really only helps with the single action pull.
http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f33/break-down-polish-cz-75-sp01-tactical-75-bd-p01-65530/
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I would always recommend a Cajun Gun Works Trigger kit, along with springs. You will notice the largest change by swapping out the heavy main spring with a lighter one ( this is across the line up ). A trigger kit really only helps with the single action pull.
http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f33/break-down-polish-cz-75-sp01-tactical-75-bd-p01-65530/
very nice write up, it is exactly what I did to mine.....accept when I was driving the slave pin out with the oem the firing pin block spring slid up and got pushed out of the other side of the frame.....CZ custom has them in stock but it cost 7 bucks to send two $3 springs...I have considered the CGW hammer because when you get into the gut you can see how the hammer plays a big part in the trigger feel. I decided to leave it where it is at for now because I honestly don’t want it any more sensitive than it already is, after the polish, for my every day pistol
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Yea I mauled that spring a bit also, managed to salvage it though. I don't mess with the slave pin, I've become pretty fast at putting the sear cage back together.
The mainspring/FPB/FP spring replacement is by far the best upgrade I think. Doing the hammer is just being picky : ) Sadly, the decocker models will never get as light as some of the DA/SA guns.
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I had a CZ 75, still have my CZ 50 and I agree w authors 2 primary faults. I also thought it had more muzzle flip than it should for a 9mm.
All these faults could be corrected. Colts & Hi Powers came w hump & bump sights in the early days as well. The full frame in photo w probably have eliminated my problem w muzzle flip as well.
All these faults could be corrected. Colts & Hi Powers came w hump & bump sights in the early days as well. The full frame in photo w probably have eliminated my problem w muzzle flip as well.
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Odd, the stock sights I thought are pretty decent white dots. Maybe they have changed in the last 5 years from what you guys have had experience with.
And as far as recoil. I had a HiPo that I sold to get my CZ 75 SA, I thought muzzle flip was less then the HiPo by a good amount.
As far as staggey trigger, I agree. Once you do a hammer swap, the reverse camming which creates that removes a lot of that feel.
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Very accurate. I picked up a bright stainless CZ75B about 3 years ago and it's my favorite shooter. My son also fell in love with it so I gifted it to him when he graduated from High School.
Fortunately he does not turn 21 for another year so I still get to shoot it while it's storred in my safe!
I'll have to buy myself another one before the kids next birthday.
Tack
Fortunately he does not turn 21 for another year so I still get to shoot it while it's storred in my safe!
I'll have to buy myself another one before the kids next birthday.
Tack
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As I qualified the small sight/white dot/sight picture of the stock 75B is a personal preference thing. Some people shoot really well with it but I just personally prefer modern sight pictures like Novaks. But it's nothing that can't be changed on a CZ since there are lots of aftermarket companies that make CZ compatible sights.
Another big plus is that it's a natural pointer for instinctive shooting.
But to answer the OP's question, yes, it is a very accurate pistol.
As others have suggested, if you do not want to spend money on trigger jobs and upgrades then consider spending a bit more, or looking for a used SP01 which will give you a really smooth gun out-of-the-box.
The only thing is that the SP01 does not have the beautiful classic lines of the 75B, nor does it have a firing pin block which may make the overall trigger system a wee bit smoother but I don't know if that's a safety concern; typically not for most people who handle firearms responsibly.
What would be nice is if Ceska Zbrojovka re-released the Pre-B models: blued (not polycoated), without the firing pin block, polished trigger internals, and round trigger guard.
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Thanks for the correction. I should have specified the SP01 Shadow specifically by name. Awesome sport shooting pistol and range gun.
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