Customizing Questions.....

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by shortbolt, Nov 1, 2010.

  1. shortbolt

    shortbolt New Member

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    Howdy. Just signed up here cause I liked the looks of the place.
    Want some input from folks with more experience customizing than I have...this is what I've got :
    Model 70 Featherweight All-Terrain in .270. Bought one just like it new when they first came out..let it go a while later and hadnt seen one since, in long , short or any other action. Thats been over 12 years ago. At least not til the other day. Walked in to a local shop and there was one on the shelf. It needed a little "clean-up" but its in really good shape, IMO.
    No doubt the .270 is an outstanding round but I have grown really fond of short actions for all the usual reasons, hence my reason for posting this. And here goes.....
    I am looking real hard at having it re-barreled by Shilen in .257 Roberts with a fluted sporter weight barrel cut to 21".
    I have recently got into rolling my own and have came across SO many opinions and articles saying what a great round this is. Not to mention it was the favorite deer round of our only (and recently deceased) local smith. I have been hunting with .243's pretty much exclusively for the last several years and havent lost any game to it yet. I've taken just about everything from head shots on squirrels to fairly big bodied deer and all sorts of critters in between. The .243 is really underrated IMO and I have nothing but Positive thoughts on the .257 BOB.
    Its not a true short action and not a long either. To me, it may just be the ultimate for whitetails within any range that anyone should be shooting. Being able to handload will up its potential that factory loads fail to do.
    Tell me what you think and offer up any suggestions you have..Thanks ahead of time and looking forward to reading your replies.
    Shortbolt
     
  2. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    Really I say stick with the 270 if it shoots good.

    If you want a quarter bore I prefer the 25-06 over all others. My grandfatehrs favorite California Ground Squirrel rifle was a 25-06 built on a an 03a3 action and topped with a Leupold scope.

    I myself prefer the cut rifled barrels over button rifled barrels. But just as many shilen barrels have wins as do Kreiger barrels in the bench rest game. If you have a long action then I say use it. If you love the 257 bob then your going to marry the 25-06.....

    Are you going to go with a blued or ss barrel?
     

  3. shortbolt

    shortbolt New Member

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    Yea the 25-06 is a great round..just trying to stay on a more compact idea. For the 25-06 I like nothing shorter than 24 inch barrel to start getting the most out of it. I've had several 2506..one in a Rem BDL that was really nice gun..one of my big problems used to be I buy / sell / trade too much :rolleyes:
     
  4. Catfish

    Catfish New Member

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    If the gun is just for a hunting gun and it shoots good there is no reason to rebarrel it. The deer don`t know what hit them anyway. This comes from a guy that loves to switch barrels and play with wildcats. SO, if you just want to do it go for it, but do it for the right reason, you just want to. ;)
     
  5. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    You are still going to be in a long action regardless of the caliber you choose. Personally the .25-06 is a stellar performer. I do not seem to be able to load a bad round in this caliber. Everything shoots remarkably well. Everyone I know that has a .25-06 reports the same results.

    The Roberts is a handy cartridge, but gives up a couple hundred fps to the .06. You can still go with a shorter barrel and choose a faster burning powder to optimize your velocity.
     
  6. amoroque

    amoroque New Member

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    I roll my own too! LOL
    I'm gonna start saying that when talking about reloading with my buds! '
    Thanks for the laugh!
     

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  7. shortbolt

    shortbolt New Member

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    Catfish...that would really be the ONLY reason..Cause I want to :D
    I'd rather rebarrel my Model 7 , but .257's dont do well with a short reciever, thats why I was kicking around the idea of the barrel swap on the 70.
    What really makes the most sence is to leave it alone. Keep it factory. And start putting back to build that Savage I was saving for when I found this one ! :cool:
     
  8. shortbolt

    shortbolt New Member

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    My pleasure..and no royalty charges this time...enjoy
     
  9. Squirrel_Slayer

    Squirrel_Slayer New Member

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    Just out of curiosity since some were talking about .25-06 in this thread...what grain range of bullet does the .25-06 fire? I have heard of people using this round to shoot ground squirrels but I was under the impression that it is a bit hot, heavy, and tends to ricochet. The reason I ask is I know that Olympic Arms makes .243 WSSM, .25 WSSM, and .300 WSSM uppers for the AR. There a couple of other machinists out there that are doing the same thing. I am just contemplating my next AR build and want something a little different, not just another run of the mill 6.5 Grendel.
     
  10. shortbolt

    shortbolt New Member

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    60 grain up to 120grain..depending on manufacturer and what type of bullet you're looking at
     
  11. Squirrel_Slayer

    Squirrel_Slayer New Member

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    Ooohhh, slow twist barrel, .25 WSSM AR upper, shooting some 60 gr. bullets....anyone heard or seen a setup somewhat similar to this? Got my mind reeling right now...if I could get that thing put together and shooting well before my prairie dog trip to CO. in the spring, my current AR in .223 will be staying home.
     
  12. shortbolt

    shortbolt New Member

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    Not in a short mag..but I'm not an AR person or a shortmag person either..
    However I COULD see spending a few $$ on a match/bull barrel in .223 (if it doesnt already have one) for that black gun and having some fun. LOTS cheaper to shoot and ALL you need for ground rats
     
  13. Squirrel_Slayer

    Squirrel_Slayer New Member

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    There is a picture of my varmint gun on the 17 page or so of the AR picture thread. You'd dig it I think.
     
  14. shortbolt

    shortbolt New Member

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    Thats a long barreled joker for sure !..Looks good though ! I'd like to have a chance burnin a few clips through'er.
     
  15. shortbolt

    shortbolt New Member

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    Here she is...

    Wont be keeping this scope on, its bigger than what I like for a huntin rig..
    [​IMG]
     
  16. RaySendero

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    shortbolt,

    I like it - so tell us about it.
     
  17. Dillinger

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    Looks like a Winchester Long Action. .30-06 maybe?
     
  18. shortbolt

    shortbolt New Member

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    As it turns out, this is my 1996 (only year produced) Winchester Model 70 Featherweight "All-Terrain" as they were dubbed, in .270Win. Nope, they didnt come with "Featherweight" stamped anywhere on the guns. They pretty much took a factory stainless featherweight and slapped an EXACT duplicate of the featherweight stock in synthetic on it and added "all-terrain" to it.
    You can't find these stocks/guns hardly anywhere !...I search the internet just for A photo of one..and thats what I found, a photo, oF ONE. Throughout the intire internet, I was able to find a single photo of it.
    Anyway..this is the one I bought new 14 years ago and was stupid enough to let it go. It's back home where it belongs and will be staying here.
    I am still kicking around the idea about re-barreling (keeping the factory barrel of course) just havent made up my mind yet.
    I'm either gonna sell the scope or put it on a .22 to punch paper with.
     
  19. RaySendero

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    shortbolt,

    OK now I'm confused. LOL - As has happened before.

    You now have one or two 270s?


    So...I don't know if this is throwing a "fly in the ointment" or not:
    One of the best rifle actions for the 257 Bob is the old intermediate size action1895 Mauser. It was originally designed for the 7x57 Mauser thus a rebarrel to 257 Roberts would just fit perfectly.
     
  20. shortbolt

    shortbolt New Member

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    Here's the deal...bought this one new back in 1996. Trading or selling caused it to leave my grip in the late 90's. I have not seen another in ANY caliber, to my memory, since I bought mine new. Just happened to be in a local shop a couple weeks ago and there was one like my "old" one in .270.
    Well it occured to me that since these are rare to come by at the least..this could very well be mine from years ago. So I contacted the owner of the shop I bought it from originally..he looked up his records/serial #... and LO-AND-BEHOLD !! IT'S MY ORIGINAL GUN ONLY 12 YEARS AFTER I LAST SAW IT !!
    And thats how it went down..in the short version.
    Only reason I am looking at re-barreling is because I want a .257BOB to hunt with and seeing how this Model 70 is gonig to be my primary..why not have the best of both worlds?