custom build or stock AR?

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by Armed-Citizen, Apr 2, 2012.

  1. Armed-Citizen

    Armed-Citizen New Member

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    being my first ar, im deciding to go with the BCM MID 16, although the 2" inch longer handguard looks strange, i decided to to go with it due to the mid length gas system advantages...referring back to the question,would it be wise to do a ground up build using the bcm mid 16 upper or going with a stock bcm mid 16 complete?
    not trying to create a precision ar just milspec would be nice...i assume the bcm mid 16 complete is ideal for what i want...any thoughts....
    i'd like to thank agent tikki for the very thorough article for "1st time ar15 buyer" thank you and god bless
     
  2. BenLuby

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    As you know, I am far from an expert, but what I did was I ordered the complete upper from BCM, but I did build my own lower. I just, as it is my first AR, want to know what a quality AR should be, and if I were to put it together completely myself, I wouldn't really have a solid yardstick to measure it with. This way, I know I have a reliable upper assembly from a reputable company, and the lowers aren't nearly as finicky. Tons of videos and such to learn how to do them, and they aren't really that bad to do. Actually, they are fun. Just be prepared to watch at least one spring/detent to go sailing.
     

  3. mountainman13

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    Unless you really want to build it you should price check the two options. I would love to build an AR but its not really a wise investment in my state as it is cheaper to just buy the gun. What I will likely do is get something used that is relatively close to what I want and then gut it and rebuild.
     
  4. Armed-Citizen

    Armed-Citizen New Member

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    well im in California and seeing uppers and lowers sold separate and complete rifles, i dont see a good difference in both. i would like to build and build one one day, maybe for my second ar in the future
     
  5. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Yeah I'm in ma. We are basically brothers in misery
     
  6. AgentTikki

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    I would build your lower, and buy an upper complete. You will be able to avoid that 11% tax by ordering a lower and upper seperately.

    Whereabouts in Cali are you?






    an on a side note:
    And middys look WAY sexier than carbines. Carbines have too much unprotected barrel exposed, they look all stumpy with their short forearms and long noses >.<
     
  7. Armed-Citizen

    Armed-Citizen New Member

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    agree...will be going for getting both receivers separate
    im located near Los Angeles , Ca
     
  8. BenLuby

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    They look like Danny Devito.
     
  9. AgentTikki

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    Lots of good shops in LA.

    I recommend Riflegear, Fountain Valley for all your black rifle needs and questions. Good people and they can answer a lot of questions you have without alot of BS and sales pressure. Their Aggressor lowers are nice, with a flared magwell and tensioner bolt to remove any play you might have between your upper and lower. (but the rollmarks is kinda hokey imo) Their custom uppers are rebranded Daniel Defense assemblies, with the exception of some of the rail/hand guard choices. I've personally spend a more than a few hours there fondling LWRCs and Noveskes, and FS200s and SCARS, and MSARs and bombarding them will tons of questions.
     
  10. AgentTikki

    AgentTikki New Member

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    LMFAO. The Penguin! Yes!
     
  11. BenLuby

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    We're showing our age. My next question, I've heard of some people who do the upper swapping routine, and have both an H and carbine buffer, that they swap out. Is that recommended?
     
  12. AgentTikki

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    Um...... sure, I'd probably be doing the same thing. :D

    But all my uppers right now have their own lowers so I'm not doing any swapping.
     
  13. Armed-Citizen

    Armed-Citizen New Member

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    i will definetley check out that store..
     
  14. Armed-Citizen

    Armed-Citizen New Member

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    i had the question in the 1stplace because i wouldn't have enough money to get two complete rifles but in the the future il have all rifles with there own lowers
     
  15. Quentin

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    A BCM midlength upper is a fine choice. And doing your own lower is smart. Both can be a little more complicated in your state though.

    In CA I understand there is a list of allowed brand names for the lower and/or a list of banned names like Colt, ArmaLite, Bushmaster, etc. And for the upper you may have concerns with the muzzle device but I don't keep up on ban states. I'm sure AgentTikki is leading you to the right people so you end up with a compliant AR. Get it put together in a legal form.