Criminal behaviour sets the benchmark for society

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by zhuk, Dec 14, 2010.

  1. zhuk

    zhuk New Member

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    Not sure if this is exactly the right forum...but I thought this was an excellent post from a local firearms forum, shooting.com.au and was worth putting it here, unedited.




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  2. bkt

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    That's very astute and clear, and at the same time obvious.

    So is it that lawmakers are dumb as doorknobs, or is their objective to control the populace? In the case of building lame cases for firearms restrictions or outright bans, it's the latter, IMO.
     

  3. zhuk

    zhuk New Member

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    Yeah not even politicians could be that dumb. And hence the law-abiding are brought down to the lowest common denominator of the criminal, for base political gain.
     
  4. Neophyte1

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    seem odd

    reading 1 in 10 people are incarcerated in the US ( me don't know what to believe)
    using basic math; 300million populace 10% are controling the mass
    doesn't that seem odd, to politicians; or are they afraid; the 90% will protect themselves
    I have issues with vigilantism, on the other hand, known criminals should be dealt with quickly and efficently.

    were you to read; cost to keep each of these in prison per year, free medical, free room, free food, free legal, free'free'free; for committing crime.

    When returned to society, I wonder what % return to their criminal ways

    10% based on some numbers I read through an FBI thing, are controlling society/freedom. hmmm
     
  5. opaww

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    The concept of, " punish the whole for the sins of the few" is every where the social-ists/commun-ists are and the U.S. has them too.
     
  6. schwefel

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    This is the same attitude taken with (psudo)ephidrine. Beause of the meth heads, a very effective OTC drug was effectively banned. It was not "banned" for efficacy, side effects or anything that the average person would consider rational. It was "banned" because it can be used to make meth. Which is great, now there are no more meth labs. Oh, wait...

    The mentality of punish everyone for the sins of a few is not just limited to 2A issues. It is the easy way out for lawmakers, though.
     
  7. zhuk

    zhuk New Member

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    And I always find it ironic that the laws criminalising us in this respect were brought in by a conservative Govt.
     
  8. Davyboy

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    Imagine what would happen if the will of the public was actually tested in a referendum. Latest poll in England " Would you bring back the death penalty for child and serial killers " 92% YES. THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. Ignored
     
  9. alsaqr

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    Bingo!!!

    It is nearly impossible for a law abiding citizen to get Sudafed in OK. The small drugstores sell Sudafed out the back door to meth makers at several times the going price. This year a Lawton, OK druggist, Haskell evans, was arrested for selling Sudafed at six times the going rate to meth cookers: The scumbag sold enough Sudafed to make 50 pounds of meth.

    While folks go to jail for being addicted to meth, there is always an out for the fat cats and the politically connected. The OK attorney general made an un-holy plea bargain with druggist Haskell Evans, who was a member of the OK Board of Health. Evans would have spent no time in jail and would have gotten probation for committing 7 felonies. But a Lawton judge said hell no and set a trial date. Judge Aycock took the unusual step of disqualifying the OK attorney general's office from further participation in this case.



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  10. AIKIJUTSU

    AIKIJUTSU New Member

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    Since many politicians are themselves supported by powerful criminals, they are doing what they can to disarm the public. I.e., working to "keep the streets safe for criminals". But they somehow include clauses in their legislation that make themselves exempt from the laws they impose upon the rest of us.
     
  11. zhuk

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    Speaking of exemptions from laws....Victoria's Deputy Police Commissioner is now CC'ing due to threats from criminals....something that is denied to the ordinary citizen. And LEOs here are not usually allowed to have possession of their sidearms when off duty anyway (and certainly not for the purposes of self defence):



    Deputy Commissioner Sir Ken Jones receiving death threats


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    December 15, 2010


    DEATH threats have forced one of Victoria's top cops to carry a gun for his protection.

    The Herald Sun has learned that deputy Commissioner Sir Ken Jones has received threats at his home and has stepped up his security.

    He carries a Glock pistol after months of sinister threats from unknown figures. The western suburbs gangland wars is suspected to be the source of some of them.

    It is clear from recent threats that someone knows where Sir Ken lives.

    That development has generated deep concerns in the force, with police trying to discover how his address became known.

    "It certainly wouldn't have been through the White Pages," a police source said.

    Senior police traditionally guard their privacy zealously because of the potential security implications.


    It is unclear whether the threats were delivered to Sir Ken in person or otherwise.

    Victoria Police revealed in September that Sir Ken had received threats suspected of being linked to gangland conflict between the Chaouk and Haddara families of Melbourne's western suburbs.

    It was about this time he was issued with the Glock.

    However, receiving threats at his home recently elevated the existing security concern to a new level.

    Sources told the Herald Sun there was nothing to indicate the threats were the work of organised crime figures.

    The September threats were regarded as "very serious and credible".

    They led to detectives scrutinising a veteran police officer after a call to 3AW's Rumour File segment, which said Sir Ken was unhappy in Victoria Police and wanted to return to Britain.

    It was reported the wording of the call that went to air mirrored those used in a threat to kill Sir Ken. The policeman's home was raided and his computer confiscated.

    An aide to Chief Commissioner Simon Overland also carries a 9mm Glock.

    It was issued late last year after high-ranking police sources said he was a potential target for disgruntled crime and terrorist figures.

    In 1989, Australian Federal Police Assistant Commissioner Colin Winchester was shot dead in the driveway of his Canberra home.

    Mr Overland was part of the police taskforce that investigated his murder.

    Victoria Police spokeswoman Nicole McKechnie last night told the Herald Sun she could not comment on the threats against Sir Ken or his security arrangements.

    "We don't discuss security issues regarding our police," she said.

    The Welsh-born Sir Ken joined Victoria Police in July last year after a decorated career in the UK and Hong Kong.

    There has been recent speculation of a rift between him and Mr Overland, a suggestion the Chief Commissioner has dismissed.


    Deputy Commissioner Sir Ken Jones receiving death threats | News.com.au


    Take note I am not saying that he shouldn't be able to carry for self-protection (the two warring Lebanese drug-dealer families mentioned are well known for their viciousness & contempt for police) but the hypocrisy that the ordinary citizen does not have this recourse if they were threatened.
     
  12. AIKIJUTSU

    AIKIJUTSU New Member

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    Criminal behaviour sets the benchmark for society
    What a pity!! "Sir Ken" has to experience the same exposure to the criminals as all the other citizens. Can't somebody in a more lofty position arrest him for carrying such an "evil" thing as a means of protecting his delicate self?
    When officials hide behind special priviledgs that they vehemently deny everyone else, it's time for some serious changes in the way the gov't is run.