Coyote Problem

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by Shingles44, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. Shingles44

    Shingles44 New Member

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    To make a long story short, Greenwood Village (a suburb of Denver) Colorado is having a coyote problem. There have been several attacks on dogs and recently, one on a 14 year old boy. Greenwood Village's answer to this was to hire a government contracted exterminator to shoot the buggers. Now, Greenwood Village is not a rural farm town, it is a highly populated city very close to an interstate freeway. On my way home from work last night i actually saw the "exterminator". He was sitting in the back of his truck looking through some binoculars examining a neighborhood park where kids were playing. WTF? How is this even remotely safe? Who knows what this guys training or background is? Aren't there better and safer ways to rid coyotes?

    Now, i'm not trying to say this guy is completely incompetent or irresponsible but I tend to lean toward the safe side, and we all know the range of a "high powered" rifle (it appeared to be a short action, maybe .22-250, .243, etc...). One ill-placed shot and this could be baaad news...

    What do you fine gentlemen think about this?
     

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  2. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    I think you should consider sandbags. You're right, this isn't safe if he HITS the coyote, let alone misses.
     

  3. Dillinger

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    I would agree completely. This is not really a safe option in an urban environment if he is using only a rifle.

    Having said that, the guys that do this are usually pretty damn good at their job, and I would imagine, he is also employing traps. They don't just get Joe Six Pack to handle the problem, and they are insured up the wazzu by the State that employs them should something occur. Granted, not much in the way of compensation if your kid was to get hit by a stray round.

    Now, for you personally, I have HEARD that some fresh meat, soaked in anti-freeze works wonders for problems like this...:rolleyes:

    JD
     
  4. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Cotton Defoliant and Vienna Sausages. Farmers around here call it "two step" because that is about how far the Coyote will get after taking a bite.

    You must use heavy rubber gloves and a very good respirator so you can continue beyond two steps.
     
  5. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    *makes mental note*

    Thanks Robo - That is very interesting information to have...

    JD
     
  6. dragunovsks

    dragunovsks New Member

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    If it was me I'd find some way to trap them before I went about discharging a high-powered rifle in a public park. Even if he hits a yote, a .243 round will probably not stop and I'm afraid a 10 year old getting hit will riding his bike will only provide the anti-gun group with ammunition. I agree this is gonna turn out bad.
     
  7. skullcrusher

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    There are many ways to poison the coyotes. If you do this, do not let the City or State know. I am sure there are laws governing this activity. What will 'off' the coyote, will also do-in cats, dogs, 'coons, etc.
     
  8. dragunovsks

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    Anti-freeze will do it, but like you said, it will also kill neighboorhood pets as well. Of course my local gunstore sells wire coyote snares for like 2 bucks a peice. Problem with them is you have to know where they travel and place them in a position where the yotes head gets in the loop. I've placed them on a fence line where the yotes squeeze through under the fence.
     
  9. Dillinger

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    Yeah, that is a problem, but I don't really consider cats in that high of regard, so it's really not a concern of mine. I know, I'm an A-hole dog owner.... plus I am allergic to cats...:rolleyes:

    JD
     
  10. Jo da Plumbr

    Jo da Plumbr New Member

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    Personally I’d be more afraid of poison or traps then I would be of a professional hunter with a rifle. The coyote can easily be baited with a little food to stand in an area where there is a clear shot with a safe backstop. At least with a bullet there is a person to make sure what animal is getting killed.
    JdP
     
  11. Benning Boy

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    Okay, now that right there is funny.:D
     
  12. skullcrusher

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    Only the Wile E. ones keep coming back.
     
  13. Shingles44

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    Thats too bad... the stuff is just so darn tasty. I once got a mouthfull when removing a block drain plug. Sweet sweet anti-freeze.

    On a side note my concern isn't so much with the coyotes (and I do appreciate all the handy tips) as it is with the guy shooting at them. JD is right, as usual, the exterminator is using traps as well.

    My 80lbs of harrier just about took a chunk out of the south end of a north-bound 'yote when it got a little too close back in January. Other than that I haven't actually seen any of them.
     
  14. orangello

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    If somebody was using a rifle to do some exterminating in my neighborhood, i'd want to chat with them politely & in a friendly manner to better know their abilities. I'd want to know he was using ammo that was hollowpoint or something that would be less likely to have an exit wound. Are those things to smart for 12 guage slug range?

    I remember watching some show about a crew in New Orleans shooting nutria & other pests out of the canals from a flatbed truck, but those guys were cops, i bleve (presumably cops are well-trained shooters).
     
  15. sgtdeath66

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    he could be using them TAP rounds in .223, but yes no firearm in this scenario is a safe on. i would stay away from poisons as well. maybe some live traps would be the best option, or a high powered pellet gun
     
  16. Dillinger

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    :eek:

    Sorry about that - I will try to make more sh!t up and be wrong more often.:eek::eek:

    JD
     
  17. skullcrusher

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    There are companies that hire only the best shots for this type of thing. They do deer kills and such, too. The companies are insured, well backed and work all over the country. The city of Solon, Oh had a company (I think from Indiana or Illinios) come in and kill deer. People had guys with climbing stands in their back yards. No one was hurt, and the guys were using rifles.
    Still, not the safest imo.
     
  18. dnthmn2004

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    ***Mental Note***

    JD's weakness. :D

    As for the coyotes, I have no first hand experience with them. I would talk to the guy and ask him why hes scoping out a playground. Sounds like an accident waiting to happen.
     
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  19. skullcrusher

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    Uh oh, JD-you've been discovered. It's 'bout time, if you ask me. :p
     
  20. cpttango30

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    In that area he should be using a shotgun with some #4 buck in it. That makes for a much safer firearm than a 22-250 or 243.

    If you use the right bullet once it hits it says in the animal. I woud be using a 40 or 50gr V-max in a 22-250 moving at the highest velocity that provided 1/2" or less groups.