[CMAB2SA]

to put in perspective...we had 12 people die of COVID in one day last week, the only other time we had that many people die in one day was when a bus went into a river

How many people recovered?

 

[Maineiak]

How many people recovered?

how many people road in a bus that day? I'm sure a lot of people recovered, but it cost them money to go to the doctor in some cases.

 

[Maineiak]

how

How many people died from cancer?

I don't know but I googled the stats for 2017, but it doesn't really apply, its like comparing apples to oranges IMO

ME Leading Causes of Death, 2017DeathsRate***State Rank*U.S. Rate**1. Cancer3,391 Heart Disease2,844 Accidents990 Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease982 Stroke736 Alzheimer’s Disease601 Diabetes395 Flu/Pneumonia301 Suicide274 Kidney Disease260

 

[Maineiak]

I don't know the date that the first case was discovered in our state, but I think it was about 7 months ago, and we have had 191 deaths so far.

 

[G66enigma]

I suppose the flu vaccine was a cunning plan by ( power hungry officials to see just how close they could push Americans into obeying )

The power-hungry, one-man dictates circumventing legislatures haven't happened with influenza precautions.

They have, with SARS-CoV-2. In spades.

Hence the uproar, in the U.S.

"No taxation without representation" ... and "Give me liberty or give me death." Should ring a bell. So should the explicit constraints upon government in one's constitution (whether nation or state within a country).

Indeed, a bell or two should be "rung" over how the rule of law has been circumvented, whatever else can be said about the efficacy of precautions. If the little bastids simply go through the representatives of the people, only issuing decisions when the People (via those reps) decide, then it wouldn't be so downright offensive. (Irrespective of what one might think of one's "duty" or "responsibility" or the appropriateness of precautions for a given person or community.)

But then, as many well know, liberty isn't as valued by many these days. And if all of liberty is tossed out the window with the bath water, what's the point? A simple, deeper question no U.S. politician really wants asked. And a simple question very few U.S. citizens have intellectual integrity enough to ask, even of themselves.

Precautions have value, if valuable enough to matter, though not merely because and edict's uttered. Far better, however, to be asked instead of forcibly commanded and threatened with imprisonment, fines and everything else. For every thing we value.

 

[Ghost1958]

The flu does not spread like CV19, mostly due to people getting the flu vaccine, that helps keep the deaths and infections down. If people have a issue with civil liberties and lockdowns etc, a effective vaccine is the way out. Maybe its just me, i do not go to bed with a gun and a tin foil hat thinking they are all out to get me, but i should release i am wasting my time trying to rationalize with people, with that mindset.

When you research which you wont the illustrious history of what our federal government has willfully. and secretly done to it's own people over the years you may not be so trusting.
As to taking a gun to bed , which you cant anyway, ignorance I suppose is bliss Let someone you love be murdered in your home and you'll learn a hard lesson but then you'll be qualified to decide what is rationale to do and what isnt concerning " taking a gun to bed".
Until then, frankly, you haven't a clue on the subject

 

[Ghost1958]

Ghost, that argument is total, utter bull-schidt and you know it!

Actually no I dont.
See my response to Manta. I don't feel like pointing out the obvious again.

 

[Ghost1958]

to put in perspective...we had 12 people die of COVID in one day last week, the only other time we had that many people die in one day was when a bus went into a river

They locked down the bus line and mandated everyone traveling by vehicle must wear a life jacket I'm sure.

 

[sheepdawg]

I don't know the date that the first case was discovered in our state, but I think it was about 7 months ago, and we have had 191 deaths so far.

One of my best friends was one of them, lived in Gardiner. Heavy smoker but only 51. This was back in April

 

[dango]

how

How many people died from cancer?

Cancer From one source :
1,762,450 cases...
606,880 deaths...

 

[locutus]

The conspiracy nutz, and those who fear and hate our government, are going to believe that everybody is out to get them regardless of facts so the argument here is pointless.

 

[TimKS]

The conspiracy nutz, and those who fear and hate our government, are going to believe that everybody is out to get them regardless of facts so the argument here is pointless.

...and the other side is too naive to believe that the government doesn't want to control us all.

 

[locutus]

...and the other side is too naive to believe that the government doesn't want to control us all.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Totally unfounded fear and hatred.

 

[sheepdawg]

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Totally unfounded fear and hatred.

Let me see if I understand, you are saying that mistrust in our government is unfounded?

 

[manta]

When you research which you wont the illustrious history of what our federal government has willfully. and secretly done to it's own people over the years you may not be so trusting.
As to taking a gun to bed , which you cant anyway, ignorance I suppose is bliss Let someone you love be murdered in your home and you'll learn a hard lesson but then you'll be qualified to decide what is rationale to do and what isnt concerning " taking a gun to bed".
Until then, frankly, you haven't a clue on the subject

I can take a gun to bed if i want, i don't feel the need. As for the virus and mask mandates and social distancing etc, that was happening in America during the 1918 flu pandemic, do you think that was all a government plan to control the people.

 

[manta]

...and the other side is too naive to believe that the government doesn't want to control us all.

That depends on what you mean by control, in lots of aspects the governing already controls you from the cradle to the grave.

 

[sheepdawg]

I can take a gun to bed if i want, i don't feel the need. As for the virus and mask mandates and social distancing etc, that was happening in America during the 1918 flu pandemic, do you think that was all a government plan to control the people.

That was a long time ago, before anyone reading this was born but just so you have an idea about our government at that time read up on Woodrow Wilson, the KKK, Tamanny Hall, Teapot Dome, Boss Crump and Warren Harding.

 

[manta]

Good news here

Army arrive at Bristol stadium for COVID vaccine roll-out 'due to start next week'
The army has arrived at a football stadium to set up Britain's first mass coronavirus vaccination programme.
Troops have been spotted at Ashton Gate stadium in Bristol to prepare the site to be ready to vaccinate tens of thousands of people.

 

[Ghost1958]

I can take a gun to bed if i want, i don't feel the need. As for the virus and mask mandates and social distancing etc, that was happening in America during the 1918 flu pandemic, do you think that was all a government plan to control the people.

Yep and it failed.
Just like this attempt will. Enough folks will not be " muzzled like a rabid dog " in this nation to see to that. One way or another.

 

[manta]

Yep and it failed.
Just like this attempt will. Enough folks will not be " muzzled like a rabid dog " in this nation to see to that. One way or another.

Some won't wear them in the UK as well, just shows you get selfish inconsiderate people in most countries.