Countdown to Illinois CCW

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by Balota, Dec 31, 2012.

  1. Balota

    Balota ... but I used to play keyboards.

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    On 11-Dec-2012, the Seventh Circuit court overturned the Illinois law making it illegal to carry a loaded gun in public. They gave Illinois 180 days to take corrective action. If they take no action within that time, then the law making public carry is void and so public carry (without a license!) would become legal.

    Since the Mayan calendar didn't seem to work out quite right, I referred to a modern calendar and found that CC-day for Illinois would be 9-Jun-2013. As of today that is 160 days away.

    Let the countdown continue!
     
  2. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    My little Sig is all nestled in her holster. Waiting..............
     

  3. JWagner

    JWagner New Member

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    Even if open carry becomes legal, do not expect doing it without consequences. I have read articles about open carry in Wisconsin not going all that well. The story usually goes that some citizen sees a guy carrying and gets so worked up that they call the police. Cops show up and bust the gun owner for creating a public disturbance. Just by walking around with a gun in a holster.
     
  4. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Personally, I would never open carry. It just isn't my "thing".
     
  5. fupuk

    fupuk New Member

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    Maby then I would feel ok with going to Illinois for vacation if I can take my firearm with me. Will have to see if Chicago tries to make there own laws regarding carry concealed.
     
  6. blucoondawg

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    If you read further you will find that when these ignorant LEO's violate the rights of the people in such ways their respective law enforcement agencies have been successfully sued into the thousands of dollars for violating the rights of the law abiding citizens. Our attorney general has also issued warnings to LE agencies that this sort of thing is not to be tolerated.:cool:
     
  7. TheoShooter

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    I sure hope it happens but part of me still says "no way". I guess we'll wait and see how difficult they make it. Fingures crossed.
     
  8. clem_

    clem_ New Member

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    Your finley going to get it! 1 day
     
  9. Balota

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    Open carry was made legal in Oklahoma in March, but the effective date was Nov-1 to allow training of LEOs to handle the new situations. On Nov-1 I carried openly, just for the joy of it. I bought myself one of those travel lanyards so that I could have my carry permit displayed where I would NOT have to reach into a pocket to retrieve it. I was expecting the LEOs to be deluged with the "OMG he's got a gun!!!" calls. Nobody even looked twice at me. OWB was so much more comfortable that I continued to open carry most of the time. About 3 weeks later someone actually noticed and said "You're the first person I've seen open carrying."

    The revised Oklahoma statutes also made it illegal for any county, city, town, village, hamlet, etc. to pass a law making carrying a licensed firearm a public disturbance or any other such action.

    Of course Oklahoma already had concealed carry for a number of years before open carry passed. So, the public had time to get used to people with guns. Not hard to imagine massive culture shock in Illinois if they went from "no carry" to "uncontrolled open carry" on 9-Jun-2013.

    Surely Illinois will pass some legislation. But if the legislation continues to deny any public carry, the new legislation will be just as unconstitutional as the previous one. I don't know what the Seventh Circuit Court would say about such a flagrant disobedience of the court ruling.
     
  10. megamike

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    I hate to be that guy but you will most likely not be able to Cary in Illinois any time soon I assure you the law makers will do every thing in there powers to create a law that will restrict the ability to obtain a ccp just like we have in maryland
    In other words u can't obtain a permit unless you have a good reason IE got robbed assaulted or raped and have a police report to back you claim up don't ask me about the logic behind that plz I wonder that myself everyday worst part they can deny you renewal after few years
    Bottom line is if they don't want you to carry they will fined a way it's what they get paid for
     
  11. PrimePorkchop

    PrimePorkchop New Member

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    Don't see how that's possible

    We have the #s to prevent a strong arm

    All we gotta do is wait 159 more days and the time limit expires, making open carry fully legal with our permits being FOID

    Only way this does t happen is SCOTUS overturning their 2008 and 2010 decisions
     
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  12. Balota

    Balota ... but I used to play keyboards.

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    Sadly, with the current administration having the potential to appoint 1 to 3 more justices, the stage is set for decades of insanity from SCOTUS. :mad::mad::mad:
     
  13. FullautoUSA

    FullautoUSA Welcoming Committee/ Resident Pellet Gunner Lifetime Supporter

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    If I'm correct when this happens every state in the country will allow carry?
     
  14. Balota

    Balota ... but I used to play keyboards.

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    There is no logic behind that, but at least there is the possibility of getting such a permit. In Illinois there was NO such possibility.

    By the way, according to handgunlaws.us, Maryland is a "may issue" state which allows the administrator (usually the sheriff) to decide whether to issue. For personal protection, the applicant must demonstrate "a good and sufficient reason" such as robbery, assault, etc. And must back that claim up with police reports.

    Are the police reports a matter of public record? It doesn't say the report has to be about such crimes with YOU as the victim. Gather up several such reports from an area near you. Claim that the frequency of such crimes creates your need for personal protection. Maryland isn't that big a state. It's close to DC where there's plenty of such crimes. The law doesn't say the report has to be from your state even.

    Another method might be to start your own small business going door-to-door selling something (Amway or something like that?) As a business "owner" there are other ways to demonstrate the need to carry. Do enough business to get the required number of receipts and proofs of transactions. Then claim that you need to be armed due to the neighborhoods where you might go to sell your product.
     
  15. Balota

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    Illinois is the only state that does not have SOME form of permitted public carry. However, there are several states where the restrictions are so severe that very few can get the permits.
     
  16. eltoro

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    Do you really think illinois "chicago thiefs" gonna let the ccw pass that easy lol really ? NOT they will battle the people hard all of a sudden after the court slaps the sate they wanna ban almost every kind of firearm ! It doesn't affect me anymore I moved to florida full time now. piss on illinois they can kiss my *** I'm tired of waking up to new rules and laws all the time about every single thing chitcago wants for their interest ! from smoking to guns to foods
     
  17. Balota

    Balota ... but I used to play keyboards.

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    155 more days...
     
  18. Shade

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    Not if they outlaw guns first.

    These (Expletive Deleteded) just will not give up...
    Well neither can we...

     
  19. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    How ignorant to have to wait to be a victim to be able to protect yourself. Then it's one incident too late for you.

    I live in a pretty low crime area. It would be difficult to 'prove need'. I'm anxiously awaiting to see how this all plays out.