Could you make it?

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by Trocar, Oct 25, 2009.

  1. Trocar

    Trocar New Member

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    Since i joined this forum about a month ago, i've read a lot of awesome posts, and learned a lot from the experience of other firearms enthusiasts. I especially enjoy reading the "bug out" threads, and seeing all the great ideas people have developed to survive a potential disaster. I live in Atlanta which is not the friendliest firearms city considering all the "super lefties" that live around me. I have branched out from the city, and met several other people who share my love for survival, firearms, and preparation. Most of them possess fantastic arsenals, and everything one could imagine to help them survive a devastating situation, along with alot of military knowledge. With all that said, one thing is lacking in almost all the people i encounter... They have absolutely no physical stamina. It has been a while since alot of them have done any physical activity (other than the usual yardwork), and i honestly don't believe they could keep up, let alone make it out of a hostile territory. I'm sure there are many members on this forum with past military experience, and have infinite knowledge to share on countless subjects. But what does all that matter if you can't hoof it 20 to 30 miles on foot with your precious "bug out" bag weighing you down? I'm not speaking for everyone, or about everyone, i'm just concerned that alot of money invested into an awesome evacuation plan may be in vain if you cannot muster up the physical energy to move at a decent pace, and keep it up. SUV's will run out of gas. Highways will be gridlocked. Normal means of travel may not be available, and foot/bicycle may be the only option. So i guess my question is this... How many of you think you are actually prepared in all areas, i.e. gear, mentally, and physically?
     
  2. IGETEVEN

    IGETEVEN New Member

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    I'll be your Huckleberry............:D

    Trocar, you have brought up a very valid and important point. Being mentally and physically prepared is a defining and important, survival factor indeed.

    I borrowed this, and it pretty well sums it up.

    1. A true survivalist never stops learning. He is always asking questions, always looking for another way to prepare, and is always ready at a moments notice. The minute you think you know everything is the moment that you have become a danger to yourself and a danger to everyone around you.
    2. Practice Makes Perfect – Survivalists are always prepared because they never stop testing themselves, they not only take the time to learn how to use their gear, but they also practice, practice and then practice some more.
    3. Healthy Mind – The survivalist loves life, he knows the importance of a positive frame of mind. During a survival situation, your will to survive is often what determines your final outcome. Those who really love life, are often the ones who will fight the hardest to survive.
    4. Healthy Body – Gear is great, but a healthy body is even better. I often hear survivalists talking about all the gear they have, but what good is that gear if your body can’t handle carrying it? To be a true survivalist, you have to take care of your body. Hike, run, lift weights, do whatever you can to stay physically fit. You are the best piece of gear you have, take care of your body!
    Jack
     

  3. sjh1022

    sjh1022 New Member

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    I agree that staying fit is important however as a larger individual i also know that i may not move as fast as some but i can carry all my gear if need be and with that weight i can hike about 3 miles an hour in my local area. For the past four years i have been working as a backpack trip leader and i know that people often think it is much harder than it actually is, if you take your time and pace yourself you can move great distances with alot of weight.
     
  4. Gus556

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    It isnt my plan to bug out. I have a family and animals to take care of. You cant "bug out" with that. What I am set up for in a SHTF situation is to hunker down and to defend my family, home, and community to the death. Most of my emergency plan involves a healthy and happy transition to mother earth. I KNOW I have the stamina for that as I work existing garden plots by hand and horse already anyway (I do have mechanized tools for working ground but I am not dependent on it). I am an experienced hunter and there is a LOT of game in this area.
    If I bug out it will be on an IH that has been "A-Team'ed" up and would rival any light APC so I could move the family as safely as possible.
     
  5. Hey-you-guys

    Hey-you-guys New Member

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    I am not a fast runner because my knees and ankles are all messed up after receiving a volley of musket fire during the Civil War. I can pace myself and move efficiently with gear if I keep the right balance and posture. I plan to hide out on the 100-acre property about 100 miles from where I live. I am surrounded by good neighbors and relatives there, and have been building treehouses in hidden spots since I was a kid that now are unofficial sniper spots. There are trails that only me and my dad know about, and we can live off the land. I have no problem eating animals other that rabbits, deer, squirrel, fish. So if I can't find a deer, I will prepare a nice buzzard or raccoon feast. You do have a good point about stamina, but I am just not a good runner, I have to sneak.
     
  6. dunerunner

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    I plan on moving all my stores to my bug out point prior to having to ...bug out! The only thing I'll have to carry will be a rifle, side arm, 100 rounds of ammo for each, 5 gallons of water and 5 gallons of gasoline.

    Plan on getting something like this to bug out on!!

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  7. OC357

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    I am not bugging out. You guys are all younger and more physicly fit than I am for sure.

    I am too old and held together with titanium rods and screws. I couldn't even carry all my ammo never mind anything elce I have stockpiled. My place has been secured. I have both military survival training and actual experience. I also shoot weekly and am quite capable of defending myself.

    If there is a meltdown, let "them" come for me. They have no idea what "they" are in for.

    OC
     
  8. colmustard

    colmustard New Member

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    this is a good topic, that alot of pepole dont think about, thanks for bringing it up!:) also remember to hydrate!
     
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  9. dunerunner

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    I'm usually dehydrated, especially after a night of heavy drinking!! :D
     
  10. cobra22

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    Hey Dunerunner

    Your photo is Father jack from the Father Ted Series. Thats my favourite TV series. Are you from Irish background?
     
  11. Glockmaniac

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    getting all the hyped gears does nothing in survival scenario if you're not fit enough.

    survival situation require fitness and endurance, just staying awake ,watching potential dangers and hunting food mean you might have to stay awake for extended shift,specialy if you're the sole '' resource'' of security for your family.

    you might have to fight using strategies and this both physicaly and mentaly.

    it's one thing watching in binoculars and using your ''tool'' to keep zombies at bay, making the distance on the long runs is another, all the material required to face a major chaos may keep yourself busy with million things during the firsts steps .

    finding your new ''quarters''' somewhere in the bush or mountain is the first part and it can be physicaly consuming, then you must keep your attention setting-up your stash and on self-defence against survivors who might want to remove you and your family from the stash you found.

    fitness is the key for such situation as well as the equipment on hand.
     
  12. gorknoids

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    I'm G2G physically, but without comm gear the best of plans and the most physically fit are going to burn up. Larry Flint has better odds of making it through a SHTF scenario than I do. Add to that taking family along and it becomes a matter of working smarter, not harder. Organization and maximization of available skills are going to save more lives than ground speed. Yes, I AM one of the old bastards that drives past military members jogging and wonders how their sweat is preparing their organization for war.
     
  13. dmacken

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    I am not as fit as I could be SHOULD be. After watching the National Parks seires the other day I decided I want to go backpacking. So I am determined to loose weight this winter and be ready for some short trips by spring/summer. I live near Yosemite and Sierra national forests. To get back on subject though a couple posts here mention staying at home and not bugging out. This would depend on the situation though wouldn't it? I think I live in an area that could flood if the damn to the north breaks. And there are many other SHTF scenarios that would require a bug out. I am somewhat new to the Bug Out Bag as I don't have one yet but have been reading up on them and getting ready to assemble one. My first thoughts on it are that I have a lot of the items I would need it in already. The thing is they are strewen about the house and garage on shelves, in boxes or drawers in every part of the house. I think to myself why not gather them up and put them in a bag stupid! I'd be halfway there!
     
  14. Trocar

    Trocar New Member

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    Exactly my point. The ideal situation would allow me to stay at home and defend from there if necessary. What if a nuke was dropped, or some kind of horrible biochemical weapon? It's nice to think about holding down the fort, but one never knows what the gooberment is going to pull. At least having some type of bug out plan is a necessity IMO. I have a family as well as alot of others on here, but they just might have to bug out too.
     
  15. TelstaR

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    A person who is in "Olympic" shape but without appropriate equipment/supplies is not going to survive anywhere near as well as somoene in "Half" as good of shape but with proper equipment/supplies.

    I think that a person of average fitness would do just fine in a survival situation given that they are uninjured and have the knowledge and equipment to survive.

    Survival is about staying alive with the intent of not pusing the limits of your body, not the opposite. (Have more by doing less. Have more = live more)
     
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  16. bigjim

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    Hate to be the wet blanket (No I dont) but I will be laughing my you know what off, at all you trying to bug out at the same time. Should make for some good campfire stories after the inital rush.

    You are leaving the most important peice of survival gear behind - your brain - Time for all of you to take the Air Force Survival Course. Guess what you get to take with?? NOTHING, they expect you to use your brain and whatever you can find.

    Jim
     
  17. TelstaR

    TelstaR New Member

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    Why are we leaving our brains behind if we bug out. The whole idea of Bug out, isnt that you think that you should go or want to go. Its a situation where you must bug out because you can not stay where you are. Its not about choice, its about what you are going to have ready when it and if it happens.

    USAF survival and evasion is not about making plans and preps to survive ahead of time. Its more about being lost, avoiding an enemy and how to survive with what is around you.
     
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  18. gorknoids

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    Yeah, but in the Air Force Survival Course the hotels, rental cars, gourmet meals and tee-times are included with the per diem check! :D
     
  19. Shooter girl

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    Gear and fitness is all well and good. But unless you have the knowledge then it is all but worthless.

    Eventually you will run out of ammo, eventually you will run out of matches, eventually you shelters will weather away.

    It is all about a fine balance between the three. If you do not have that proper balance, then you are done. The differences are just how long till you are done.
     
  20. James

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    Resourcefulness is the ruling principle that will determine who lives and who doesn't, who thrives and who doesn't, and who even lives in comfort and who doesn't--after a national or international disaster, or just in everyday life.