Could Use Help Old RCBS Jr Reloader

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by LtpLegend, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. LtpLegend

    LtpLegend New Member

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    I have this old re-loader in the basement with some old instructions with no pictures =(

    If anyone knows if I have all the pieces I need minus a Dye which I figured out I would greatly appreciate the help.

    Also if you know where I could find a Thirty Aught Six Dye and a .35 maybe even a 7.62 NATO!

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    I don't know how to use the thing and have been reading the book and instructions with it but its been difficult with little progress. The only Thing I have ever reloaded before is 12 and 20 gauge shotgun shells =)
     
  2. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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  3. 1hole

    1hole New Member

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    And a loading manual. Preferably a Lyman.
     
  4. BILLYBOB44

    BILLYBOB44 Active Member

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    Ltp, as Tango has said Midway is a great supplier for equip.+also the book ABC's of Reloading. I also like the current Lyman Handbook. Mine is the Lyman 48th edition, but I think the 49th edition is currently in print?? Try your Public Library, they may have any of these books?? I have an older RCBS RockChucker press that has served(and still does) me well. I don't know if the JR model has enough leverage to EASYLY re-size 30-06/.308 brass. Be sure to use case lube on your brass, or you WILL have to learn how to use a stuck case remover-this I know from 1st hand knowledge:pHA Read through the books that you can obtain,and get a general feel for your equipt. If after that, feel free to ask any of us any particular question on the hand-loading process:D
     
  5. LtpLegend

    LtpLegend New Member

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    I found maybe 15 dies for RCBS for a Thirty Aught Six do you need multiple Dies for crimping or trimming and fitting or something? or is it a one shot deal? How do you know which length to use too?
     
  6. jeepcreep927

    jeepcreep927 New Member

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    You simply need the standard 2 die set from RCBS. The set will contain a full length sizing/ decapping die and a bullet seating die. The seating die is adjusted down to apply the crimp. I have yet to crimp while loading for .308 (bolt action) or .223, which now only goes through my Encore single shot. If used in the AR, my .223 rounds will get a crimp.

    Your cartridge length is measured with a caliper and you trim them on a case trimmer. I think the trim dies you refer to from Midway are for forming a cartridge case using the 30-06 as the parent case, i.e. 7.62x39 from 30-06. In that instance you are shortening the case significantly, changing shoulder angles, etc.
     
  7. BILLYBOB44

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    Ltp has 15 06 dies?

    Ltp, as stated before reading a current loading manual will answer some of these ques. As JeepCreep said, the standard 2 die set will load the 06. Look closely at each die, and read what they say. The std. size die will have "30-06 FL. Size"=Full length size. All of the size dies should have a decap stem screwed into them. You may also have Neck size dies. They will say Neck on them? The other die should say "30-06 Seater". Most of the seater dies are pretty much standard. You may also have file type trim dies. They will say "30-06 Trim". After FL sizeing, place the case in the trim die, to the top of the press stroke, and file off any case material that is above the die surface. You then take a de-burring tool to chamfer the inside/outside of the trimmed case. Again get a book+read up:D
     
  8. RL357Mag

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    If you want to save time measuring and trimming brass buy the Lee Pilot/Lock stud/Cutter. It costs about $7 from MidsouthShootersSupply.Com. No measuring involved. There are pilots for each caliber. Place the pilot in the shell casing and turn the cutter by hand (or you can chuck it in a cordless drill). If the case is too long, the cutter trims it to spec, if it doesn't need trimming, no material is removed! It's the fastest method of trimming on the market, and that's important when you have several hundred cases to trim. AS far as crimping goes, be careful. You cannot use the seating die to crimp bullets that do not have a cannelure - for this you need a "Factory Crimp" die. Read up on "roll crimps" and "taper crimps". Again, Lee sells a 3-die set that includes a "Factory crimp" die - for $26.
     
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  9. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    As for dies.

    You need fl sizing dies set which is a 2 die set one resizes ther cases the other seats the bullet and roll crimps the round all in one.

    Other sets may have neck sizer dies or competition seating dies.

    If you want RCBS dies get the X-die you will never have to trim brass again. Remember than Lee, RCBS, Hornady, Reading, Forester and others will all fit your press. RL likes Lee dies as do a lot of people. I prefer RCBS and Hornady and can't afford Reading dies. The nice thing about the Lee dies are that they come with the best crimp die around the lee factory crimp. I am ot a big fan of lee products as any one on here will tell you but that lee FCD is the best thing going for a crimp die. I like hornady dies because of the seater as it aligns and holds the bullets before they enter the die body thus reducing the dreaded black finger nail of pain and crying. I curse every reloader has had at least once. Or the Blood blister from the nether world.

    Books you need at least
    ABC's of Reloading
    Lymans Reloading Manual
    and any and all free reloading manuals from the web on the powders you are using. Hodgdon even has a online searchable database for loads. Very nice set up and very nice easy to use functions.
     
  10. LtpLegend

    LtpLegend New Member

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    Thank you for your help guys. Yes, Billy reading will help but also asking on a Forum that is intended to help people helps as well since I can not ask my book specific questions. As I said before too the book I have is very vague and it assumes I know what all the part names are and the procedure. I just wanted to make sure I had all the right parts first before trying to figure it out step by step.
     
  11. 1hole

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    The suggestions to go to a book have a point.

    Telling you what the various tools are, how to use them and load safely takes a book. We really can't do you much good with a few brief comments to what may seem like "simple" questions; useful answers are rarely that simple, especially so when the beginner hasn't taken the time to learn the basics of the reloading language.

    What we CAN and WILL do is help you with limited and specific questions that may arise after you get started.

    You have a good starter set of tools, good luck!
     
  12. BILLYBOB44

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    Ltp, I really did not intend to be a Smart A@@ when I strongly suggested for you to get a book+read up. That's why I put a :D after the comment. I have handloaded centerfire rifle/pistol for over 35 years, and I still am always going to the books for reference, and terminology. I checked Midway Usa.com, and they have in stock The Lyman 49th Edition softcover reloading manual (Product #217655). I have the 48th Edition, and use it very often. I think you'll find that will be the BEST $19.99 you can spend for handloading info. They devote the entire first sections to descriptions of the process, in a very in-depth, understanding way==have fun+stay with the Min. loads to start with-until you get to know your way around. PS.-I did not see a caliper, for measuring. You'll need one for sure-Midway has them also:)
     
  13. skullcrusher

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    Ltp,

    Obviously, the manuals you have are not the ones that several members have tried to help you with for content and full explanation. I think you got some good advice and if you follow it, you will understand. You will see that you will be able to get great advice from extrememly knowledgable and experienced members once you understand the vocabulary. It is very hard to explain something to some one who has no understanding of the terms and procedures. Once you get one of the affordable books suggested and you can see pictures and definitions, you will understand. It is just one of things, like starting a new job in a field where you have never worked. You gotta learn what is, and the new words that come with it.

    Stick around. You will be glad and reloading in no time like a pro. Jmho. :D
     
  14. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    Please reread all the posts. I don't know how many people need to tell you the exact same thing.

     
  15. Going Postal

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    Ltp - I'm going to say it again, get a good reloading book, better yet get a couple of them. I have been reloading for a little better than 35 years and I thought I knew just about everything. I bought the 49th Edition of the Lyman manual a couple of weeks ago and actually started reading it. I have to say that I've learned a couple of things already and I have not read very far into it!!

    You know that once you have read a section of the book and have specific questions, you can come to the forum and ask other folks' opinions or specifically what they do in certain situations.
     
  16. LtpLegend

    LtpLegend New Member

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    I already said thank you for the help as you told me what I needed and I went on my way to get it all.. you can all stop shoving the book down my throat now thank you.

    All I really asked was did I have what i needed in the picture and where I could get some dies. Anyways besides this site I found really rocks, just what I was looking for.


    Reloading Metallic Rifle Cartridges
     
  17. dodge

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    Another suggestion is to go to a range near you and get to know some of the people there and see if anybody reloads. Ask them if they would help you get started. Most reloaders that I know will be more than happy to help someone get started so you can enjoy a new hobby. For me it's sometimes easier to see something done than to read about it as I'm more of a hands on type of person.