Correct nipples for FIE 1851 Navy

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  1. ScottMcM

    ScottMcM New Member

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    Hi guys, my first post. I have an old 1851 Navy revolver, 36cal. FIE, Italy is written on the butt. The nipples need replacing. Any ideas as to the correct ones? Thanks in advance.
     
  2. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Welcome to FTF. Got pics?
    I'm just guessing here but typically most of the guns I've seen use #11 caps. You can check out Dixie gun works online.
     

  3. ScottMcM

    ScottMcM New Member

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    Thanks for the link. I'll try and get a pic or two later today. Thanks again.
     
  4. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Free advice (not that you asked for any). If you do not have one, order a nipple wrench at the same time. Second, use a good penetrating oil, let soak for a few hours before you try to pull the nipples. If worn to point of replacement, strong possibility they are going to be frozen.

    Personally, I like a product called KROIL, but would use SOME penetrant before trying to futz mit der nipples.
     
  5. ScottMcM

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    Thanks. Advice is always welcome.
     
  6. Hawg

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    Don't fool with a nine dollar nipple wrench. It will twist. Either buy an expensive one or make one out of a 1/4 drive socket. Once you get them out you can measure the threads or take it to a hardware or automotive store and they can measure it for you. Most revolvers take #10 caps but you can get nipples that take #11 if you prefer. Treso is about the best there is. http://www.trackofthewolf.com/list/Item.aspx/64/2
     
  7. ScottMcM

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    Thanks, I imagine that's the only way to be sure of the thread size. I have had the pistol for a long, long time., in fact, I loaded it up more than 15 years ago, with Pyrodex, and it sat in the safe for all those years...forgotten. I recently pulled it out, realized that it had been loaded for all these years(thank God it was in the safe), and decided to "unload" it and clean it. I was pleasantly surprised to find that it still fired after sitting all these years. I also expected to see major corrosion in the cylinder, from sitting loaded for so long....I found zero corrosion. It looked just like it did when it was loaded all those years ago. Since it has "survived" all my abuses for all these years, I figured it deserved a good makeover...that's why I'm looking for nipples.....oh, I forgot to mention...soon after I first bought the pistol, the lug that holds the loading lever(?) up against the underside of the barrell, broke off...to make a long story short, I decided to make a "sheriffs model" out of it, and bobbed both the barrell and the lever. Considering that I did it a long time ago, with hand tools only, I did a pretty good job, relocating the front sight and all. I will post some pics later today, so you guys can give me your opinions of my "beater sheriffs model 1851"......LOL
     
  8. ScottMcM

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    Notice how I keep the loading lever out of the way. I drilled, tapped, and used a screw as a stop, so the plunger won't go past a certain spot. I thought it was better than string or tape...The old gun ain't real purdy, but it's a good shooter.
     
  9. eatmydust

    eatmydust New Member

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    These oughta work!;)
     

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  10. ScottMcM

    ScottMcM New Member

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    NICE!! Now, where did I put my nipple wrench?
     
  11. Hawg

    Hawg New Member

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    AD is the date code for 1978. Don't use more than 20 grains of powder in that brass frame unless you want a pretty paperweight.
     
  12. ScottMcM

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    Thanks, I usually go about 15 grains or so... 1978....I knew it was a little on the old side....that's the year I graduated high school.
     
  13. ScottMcM

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    I recently realized that FIE is the importer. How do I identify who made the revolver?
     
  14. Hawg

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    It should have a makers mark on it somewhere. It may be hidden under the loading lever. It's most likely to be ASM or one of the lesser known ones like PR or COM. Usually a PR gun has a superposed PR on the butt next to FIE like this one.

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    If its a Pietta it may have FAP under the lever like this one. FAP may be in a diamond

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    ASP will have DGG arranged in a circle.

    Uberti will have a U in an octagon. Its not likely to be a Uberti with a brass frame tho.

    Palmetto will be a palm tree in a circle.

    COM will be marked COM

    ASM will be marked ASM or SM
     
  15. ScottMcM

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    Thank you! It has PR on the butt, just like in your photo. It looks as if it didn't stamp clearly. So....my next question...PR...good quality, or POS?
     
  16. Hawg

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    Mine's a POS. Poor craftsmanship and poor quality of parts. Shoots good tho.
     
  17. ScottMcM

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    Yep,that pretty much describes mine, too.