Coronavirus lock down lead to more racial strife in South Africa

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  1. bluez

    bluez Well-Known Member

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  2. towboater

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    While the government sells out to the Chinese.
     
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  3. Nmwabbit

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    oh please, get a grip, the remaining white dutch descendent Afrikaners of RSA are using youtube venues to once again promote propaganda about the same olde apartheid rhetoric against the blacks...

    this mentality is similar to this country's whites subjugation of the native americans and moving them to reservations, except here the natives capitulated and in RSA the black citizens haven't.

    been going on for over 50 years in Southern African countries except Botswana!
    [richest southern African country!]

    Zim's Mugabe lost the economic goals he envisioned when he overtook the country's white farmers in and replaced them with black landholders who lacked any knowledge on how to tend to and prosper the land economically for his government's benefit!

    this tiny bit of history has been lost on Ramaphosa and RSA's citizenry.

    tis a never-ending mythical story as it is here in this country where every ethnicity has equality!
     
  4. Mercator

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    In sum: you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
     
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  5. Nmwabbit

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    that your audacity to summarily dismiss my missive out of hand with absolutely no subjective rebuttal evidence just exhibits the typical lack of the world's historical perspective which is pervasive by this country's citizenry!

    never doubt those stories told by those whose footsteps have taken different paths than yours across this planet as it could, just could, make you look ignorant!
     
  6. Mercator

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    White Africans are fleeing the country. I personally met and spoke with S African immigrants. They are going anywhere these days. Mostly people who never engaged in apartheid and whose only fault is being white. And they are not all Afrikaners, probably as many are Anglos by descent. You ever tried to think what it's like to be chased out of your country? And what's with this racial discretion "of Dutch descent"? What are you, Henry Louis Gates? Not a clue.
     
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  7. Trunk Monkey

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    I mean, that could be a response to just about anything he posts
     
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  8. Trunk Monkey

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    If I was a white South African I would leave that country if I had to walk.
     
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  9. Nmwabbit

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    comparison to a Black WVa writer -- really?

    of course, speaking & listening to those whose story line is the the story du jour is meaning full, especially if your story personally benefits your goal(s)...

    as for your perspective of my ethic indiscretion in accurately describing the ancestrally heritage of the RSA's Afrikaner which again shows the your complete lack of knowledge of the region.

    your use of the term "probably" is yet another example.

    as for RSA'S apartheid policies...was not covert like the treatment of Natives as well as the treatment of those of colour which was embedded by this founding fathers in their BoR/Constitution of only recognizing the aristocratic male class of this country, but rather was ingrained into the RSA's populace until Mandela & de Klerk began bringing the country into the 21st century!

    finally, why would anyone, white or other ethnicity want to leave such an absolutely gorgeous country with such diversity...

    PTA's jacaranda spring blooms are fond and missed memories!
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  10. Nmwabbit

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    ROFLMAO...

    yet another sterling example of the lack of world perspective & knowledge!

    Pray tell & for what earthly rationale would a "WHITE" resident [aka Afrikaner] want to leave RSA?

    all without any substantiation whatsoever!
     
  11. schnuffleupagus

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    This sounds like you are either:

    • Arguing that the whites in South Africa are not in th crosshairs of a marxist racist movement
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    • acting as an apologist for the marxist racist movement.
    Every INDIVIDUAL has the same OPPORTUNITIES in the United States of America. Those opportunities are accounted for in the stories of:

    Thomas Sowell
    Linda Alvarado
    Dave Anderson
    Louis Mendez Jr.
    Booker T. Washington
    Will Rogers
    Samuel Ramirez
    Walter Williams
    Terri Crawford Hawkins
    Mary Ross

    I lose patience with the weary argument that we all wear the shackles of our ancestors. It is riddled with the holes of many successes of many individuals.
     
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  12. schnuffleupagus

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    I would not characterize your previous post as a " missive", missives, generally, are long-form and official, though the word has degenerated into a weak synonym for "note" recently-most likely from people unconcerned with the precision that the English language is capable of.
     
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  13. Mercator

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    All of them say they crime first, then corruption and the lack of opportunity. Pretty much what you will hear on You Tube. It is not "propaganda" because there is nothing to gain by going public. Nobody gives them a hand. Every man for himself. They go as far as Siberia to resettle.
    And dude you sound like Cornell West I swear.... The missives and the whole thesaurus :D
     
  14. Nmwabbit

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    sigh...again without a lick of substantial evidence...really!

    where on earth did you come up with ZA's current parliamentary republic governmental system is a marxist -- describing the social, economic and governmental philosophy or a "dictatorship of the proletariat” leading towards socialism!

    as for:
    Sowell: discredited using misattributions https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/thomas-sowell/
    Alvarado: multibillionaire aristocratic
    Dave Anderson: dave w. multimillionaire
    Louis Mendez Jr.: West Point graduate & WWII officer
    Booker T. Washington : black aristocratic
    Will Rogers: vaudeville humorist
    Samuel Ramirez: latino aristocratic multimillionaire
    Walter Williams: discredited using misattributions
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/no-matter-what/
    Terri Crawford Hawkins ??
    Mary Ross: ? millionaire

    point?
     
  15. Nmwabbit

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    "ALL OF THEM..." who are these "ALL" ? how many is "ALL"?
    [shades of biased newspeek/social "documentaries" from the immigration shelters or wait from those terrorist housed cuba!]

    wait...you missed the news where members of congress might/could/did profit from a classified briefing on the virus this year , or Pelosi using insider trading earlier is century, ad nauseam; or perhaps the 50+/- year ongoing stereotypical dealing with ethnic citizens of this country by LE agencies, again ad nauseam...

    why aren't our ethnic citizens streaming out with the atrocities going on?
     
  16. Mercator

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    I think we are done here. Wabbit come back sober.
     
  17. Nmwabbit

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    that perceives one started in the first place, now doesn't it?

    what is it with some members believing the dismissive, discrediting, and demeaning power & control bullying behaviour towards another is appropriate?

    this is especially true since there hasn't been an ounce of objective evidence proffered whatsoever only hearsay hyperbole nonsense!
     
  18. JTJ

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    Despite the government denials South African white farmers are being murdered. The SA government is covering it up. The attacks are being carried out by military trained people. Why dont you move onto a farm there if it is so safe? Australia is in a big controversy over refugee status for white SA farmers.
     
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  19. Trunk Monkey

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    You can't reason with troll because they have no interest in reaching an understanding. They just want to see how much disruption they can cause
     
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  20. Nmwabbit

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    shouldn't believe the unsubstantiated or unreliable ZA white conspiracy theorists nonsense as reports of these conflicts have been going on for over 40 +/- years...

    as for the RSA government's land redistribution activities...

    consider
    - ZA has currently has 55 millions citizens
    - 1913 ZA's land was initially distributed by the government to only 8% of the black citizens
    - currently, 2020, 44,000 white Afrikaners hold 88% of the ZA's agricultural lands

    redistribution...
     
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