My brother is not a gun guy at all, He has golf clubs, you have guns, it is exactly the same thing to him. A hobby, something that relieves stress and gives enjoyment. He is not afraid of guns there were a couple in our house growing up, our nearest neighbor was 3/4 of a mile. A sherriffs deputy once told dad that the absolute best response time would be 12 minutes and he better not depend on that number. We were both taught to shoot, I took it he did not. His wife is a diehard anti gunner. When I was getting divorced I wanted to get my guns out of the house to keep them out of the divorce. I asked if I could store them in his basement in locked cases, no ammunition to come with them, his wife response was and I quote "what if someone breaks in and bring their own bullets". So we are sitting at Easter dinner today talking politics and everything else like brothers will do. Not sure what lead to this part of the conversation but he said he was flipping channels one night and as he passed cnn he saw a nra logo in the backround and stopped. Rachal Maddow was talking about how she can't understand why gun manufacturers aren't liable for gun deaths because tobacco companies were held liable for cancer deaths in the lawsuits. He then went into a rant about how the tobacco companies lied and that Smith and Wesson never lied to anybody. And if you missuse their products it is not their responsibility. The rant was longer and more detailed than that but it was refreshing to me for a non gunner to "get it" so to speak. Maybe there is hope after all!!!