Considering a new shotgun....need input

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by northhike, Aug 8, 2010.

  1. northhike

    northhike New Member

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    I am looking to get a new shotgun for upland bird hunting (Pheasant and Grouse specifically). Since both require a bit of walking I am considering a lighter gun (20 gage). I am looking to spend less than $1000. Got any suggestions?

    My first and foremost criteria is reliability and durability. Some of the shotguns I am considering are the Remmington 870 Wingmaster, The CZ O/U and The Benelli Super Nova. Would consider a semi-auto as well....but don't know much about them as I have mostly shot pumps.
     
  2. skullcrusher

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    For reliabilty, you can't beat a pump. For upland birds, you do want a smooth bore and a long barrel. The 20 gauge is more than able to get the job done, but with a 12, you get more bang for your buck. The Remmy is hard to beat when it comes to affordability and reliability. If you do go with a 20 gauge for ease of carry and quick second shots, then the Benelli may be the go to because it has a tad less felt recoil.

    But, for about $1k, there are several other options. Don't look past the side-by-sides of several makes. Even Beretta.

    If there is a range near you that has trap and skeet shooting that rents different makes and models, you might want to try a few out, just to see what you like. Also, keep in mind that if you don't like the front sight on the one you like, you can always have it changed.

    Let us know what you decide. :)
     

  3. northhike

    northhike New Member

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    Thanks.....I am considering all. I really like the Beretta Silver Pigeon and White Onyx. Not sure how they shoot, but they feel great in hand! :)
     
  4. Missileman

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    For $1K you can get a very nice O/U from Browning, Beretta, SKB, Remington, and others. My personal favorite for upland game is a 28 gauge side by side, but they are a little harder to find in that price point. I would stick with a 20 gauge or lighter, as on upland game there is no bird/rabbit that will know the difference and they are much nicer to carry for the day. You can find a slightly used Browning BSS, Winchester 23, or SKB 385 SXSs for around $1K in 20 gauge if you look hard--that would be my advice.
     
  5. davemccarthy707

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    The Benelli Nova/Supernova gets my vote. There is no higher quality pump out there in my opinion.
     
  6. R-BOLT

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    If I can find one, I have been wanting to add a CZ 12 gauge 26" upland ultralight to the collection. It is roughly a 6 lb. over and under. Reviews have been good so far. Should be able to pick one up in the $725.00 range if you can find a dealer that works with you.
     
  7. Rollin Oswald

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    Whichever gun you buy, be certain that with snug cheek pressure on the comb, you are looking right along the surface of the vent rib. You want to avoid having to use too much or too little cheek pressure to look along the surface. Both are likely to cause the comb to smack you in the cheek during recoil ("cheek slap").
     
  8. Rollin Oswald

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    Everything about this Website is atypical.
     
  9. TexasPatriot

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    Nothing wrong with a 20ga. Rem 870 Upland. Even an 11/87 Upland. Both are proven platforms and effective performers. I have an 870 12ga I have owned since 1976 that has never failed me once no matter what the situation or circumstances. It is worn and scarred up. Looking awful pathetic sitting in the safe among a few other high grade doubles and such, but that just makes it easier to pick out when its time to go down some birds for the grill next weekend...
     
  10. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    You can't beat the quick follow up of a double gun. And it is very easy to safe and tell what's in the chamber. And it's helpful to have the different chokes when the bird is moving away from you.
     
  11. Walley

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    You might consider a 20 gauge side-by-side for upland game. Safer and more reliable than any pump or auto ever made. They are the classic gun for both field and clays
     
  12. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    I have a side by side, but I find the two barrels next to each other make it difficult to obtain a good sight picture. It's like my eyes can't decide which plane to look down. Anyone else have this problem?

    I want to get an over under to get around that problem.
     
  13. Walley

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    Years ago I had the same problem until an old man told me to forget the B.S. about keeping both eyes open and just sight down the center rib with one eye. It has worked for me for about 50 years so it might work for you. Give it a try and see how it works out for you.
     
  14. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Eventually I did just that. My clay busting got much better. I still want the over under, so don't tell my wife about that idea. ;)
     
  15. Walley

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    I guess I am a lucky man. My wife gave up asking why I needed a new gun about 30 years ago. Now she just asks who I am going to will any new acquisitions to. I have news for all my greedy kids and grandchildren I might be pushing 73 but I plan to be around for a long time. As long as I can still see the front sight this old fart will still be shooting at something
     
  16. northhike

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    Somehow my post got highjacked. :D I actually ended up purchasing a 870 Express Pump (wood version). I did look at the Benelli Nova, but as I stood at the counter with the Benelli rep in front of me telling me how much better it was than the 870 the Nova jammed twice with nothing in it. Oops.... Plus I did not like the way it felt....seemed too loose. The rep did finally come around to saying the 870 was bullet proof and he owns one too so there ya go. ;)
     
  17. peabody

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    forgive me, but my friend has a auto-loader... baraska ? im sure im NOT spelling that right, looks like a stoger ? probly misspelt that too....:confused::eek:


    anyhoo, its a lightweight 12 ga, and pretty sure they comes in 20ga,

    he only gave ? 300 bucks for it... silly thing really shoots good !!

    myselfe. i like my old 870 16ga.wingmaster, like others have posted, its NEVER failed.

    i grew up with the 16ga, .... 870's and winchester 97's...
    and one browning sweet 16.auto.

    back in my day, us boys would take our shotguns to school, on the bus.. or we walked across the lake, [frozen] ..after skool, we'ed all go duck hunting...:)
    heck ? some of the teachers would go with us !

    ''sigh'' ..... i really miss those day's... ma and grandma cooking duck, and baking cookies, we boys feeding cows, and chores.. and smelling those good smell's from the house.... ha, bet them horses/cows never got fed faster!!!

    peabody
     
  18. peabody

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    oh well... i posted too soon, didnt read yer post till AFTER i posted...ha.

    yep ya did's good !!! 870's rock !!!


    peabody
     
  19. Missileman

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    If you can find one, SKB made a Sporting Clays version of their Model 385 SxS with a raised rib--the sight plane looks great and is easy to shoot with both eyes open. Thier Model 485 has the same raised rib standard, but is a lot pricier. Great shotguns--my favorite SxS.
     
  20. davemccarthy707

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    I think your referring to the Baikal mp-153. Great auto-loader.