Considering 3" 1911 as next purchase

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by aandabooks, Nov 23, 2013.

  1. aandabooks

    aandabooks New Member

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    I really don't know why I'm thinking about buying a 1911 in this size. We have CC coming to IL and maybe I'm just getting caught up. I already have a XDS .45 and a S&W 642.

    What are the big issues with the 3" 1911s? Are these really viable carry guns or just carry the 5" Colt I already own if I want to carry a 1911?

    I've been looking at everything from STI-$1250, Kimber-$920, American Classic-$650 and a RIA-$540. Also looked at a Ruger 4" for under $700. Something in the STI range would require trading or selling another pistol.
     
  2. Mouser

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    I have two such animals...one Kimber w/ laser in .45 and one Springfield EMP 9mm

    They are bonafide carry guns, but I have them mostly because I want them. My carry weapon of choice is M&P Shield. I can tell by your post that one is eating at your consciousness...like a chigger bite, the itch won't go away until you scratch it! All I can say is that they are great guns...though I find the recoil pretty sharp compared to a full sized gun...not terrible, but not pleasant like the Springfield is.
     

  3. saitek

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  4. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i am quite partial to my SA Loaded Micro Compact 45. has a 3" bushingless barrel, carry bevel job done to it from the factory, slim panel grips, alloy frame and a stainless steel slide.

    very accurate and recoil isn't at all at what i expected from such a small pistol.

    as a general rule, the smaller the 1911 gets, the higher the price gets!
     
  5. JW357

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    If you're thinking a carry piece, might be a good idea to buy the RIA as its cheaper. If you have to use it (God forbid) in a SD situation, the police will likely confiscate it until you have been cleared in court. Therefore, do you want a $1200 gun in their inventory locker (with God knows what all being done to it) or would you rather it being a $500 gun being subjected to it?

    Just my personal thoughts on the matter. Especially in IL which doesn't appear to be an overly gun friendly state.

    Of course, if you just want the STI, well, because you WANT it, I say go for it.
     
  6. connectegr

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    I started with the 3" Kimber Ultra CDP, but now my EDC is a Springfield Armory EMP 40. The Kimber required considerable breakin (400+ rounds). But, was flawless beyond that, and surprisingly accurate for the size. The SA was flawless out of the box. Both are a great combination of looks and firepower.
     
  7. limbkiller

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    This is what I carry most of the time. It has a 3 1/2" barrel though. Never missed a beat.
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  8. Olympus

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    Colt Defender is also a good choice. I have one for sale in the classifieds here.



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  9. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    If you do decide to get a short barreled 1911, remember that they go through recoil (and firing pin) springs at a faster rate.

    Instead of the normal approx 5,000 rounds, you may have to replace at approx 800 rounds.
     
  10. Mouser

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    I have yet to wear out a recoil spring out...what are the symptoms I would expect to see when the spring is beginning to wear out?
     
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  11. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Mouser,
    According to the Kimber manual, page 7,
    http://www.kimberamerica.com/uploads/manual-download/Compact.pdf

    Because I don't want to void any warranty, I try to follow the user's manual in care and maintenance.

    When the empties shoot to the next county, or drag marks on primers, or excessive kick.

    On a full size 1911, compare the old spring to a new one. If the new spring is 1" or more longer than the old, it is time to swap out (normally about 5000 rounds).
     
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  12. ltcfb118

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    I have a Colt Defender. The. 45 caliber is great little gun.
     
  13. Brad_CCW

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    I love my EMP 40 but my 4" Kimber CDP pro is about 6 oz lighter and carries the same number of rounds as my flush mag for the EMP. I find it hard to justify carrying the EMP. The weight is pretty noticeable.

    The 3" 1911's tend to need a little tuning so make sure you get one with a good warranty and customer service. Sig is a good place to start, I hear their customer service is great and you can get one for $800 or less on gun broker. Recently I've had a great experience with Kimber customer service. STI has a great reputation too but if money is a factor I'd start with Sig.

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  14. Brad_CCW

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    What is a drag mark?
     
  15. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Look at a fired case from a Glock and compare to a 1911.

    The 1911 firing pin strike should be round. If it looks like a Glock firing pin hit, then there is something wrong.
     
  16. Brad_CCW

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    Ok, I guess I've seen a tear drop shape from one of my guns. I forget which one. I guess if the spring is too light it means the slide is coming back before the firing pin gets out of the way?
     
  17. John_Deer

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    My brother has a Kimber Ultra II that I have run at least a 1000 rounds through it. The range near his home is only 15 yards. At 15 yards the Kimber is very accurate. It is heavy for pocket carry. You will need suspenders for pocket carry. It doesn't drag your britches off in a OWB holster.

    I would buy a Kimber myself if I had other 45 acp pistols.
     
  18. phideaux

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  19. Brad_CCW

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    Ya, I've considered the Sig Ultra Compact also. I like that it's a 3.25" barrel instead of 3". I decided on the STI Escort since it's 5 oz lighter (23oz vs 28 oz), and I've been wanting an STI anyway. Mine didn't come with night sights though, I like the finish better on the Sig, and it's still lighter than my 33oz EMP 40. Looks like a good choice to me. Sometimes gunbroker.com is cheaper than Bud's but it looks like you got a pretty good price too.
     
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  20. phideaux

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    I ordered the Sig from Georgia Gun Store ,for $830 ,no tax, + $29 shipping.
    I wanted STI also, but a bills more than I got.

    I was wandering if the 23 oz may be a recoil handful.
    I have shot the SA XDS and recoil was easy.

    Good choice on STI.


    Jim