Congressman Pushes a Ban on Traditional Ammunition

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  1. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Congressman Pushes a Ban on Traditional Ammunition

    Submitted by cbaus on Fri, 10/01/2010

    While recently introduced legislation in the U.S. Senate would protect sportsmen from a possible ban on traditional ammunition and fishing tackle, a member of the U.S. House of Representatives has introduced legislation squarely targeting America's sportsmen by doing the opposite.

    U.S. Representative Bobby Rush, (D- ILL), known for introducing anti-gun legislation such as H.R. 45 (Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act), has introduced new legislation that would open the door to ban all traditional ammunition. House Resolution 5820 would amend the Toxic Substance Control Act of 1976 (TSCA) by removing the exemption included in the law for traditional ammunition. It was that specific exemption that forced the EPA to deny the ammunition portion of a petition filed by several groups seeking to ban both traditional ammunition and fishing tackle.

    The U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance (USSA) and other groups have repeatedly pointed out that scientific evidence connecting lead ammunition to the harm of most animal populations is inconclusive. However, there are real concerns that forcing sportsmen to purchase higher cost, non-lead ammunition will decrease the number of days spent in the field as it prices many out of the market. In turn, this will reduce the funding available for conservation efforts, as much of those dollars are from the taxes paid by sportsmen when they purchase firearms, ammunition and other hunting equipment.

    "Legislation like 5820 will only serve to reduce conservation funding at a time where every available resource is precious," said Rob Sexton, USSA vice president for government affairs.

    Numerous organizations, such as the National Shooting Sports Foundation, have already voiced their opposition to this bill.

    Take Action! Sportsmen should contact their U.S. Representatives immediately and ask that they oppose H.R. 5820. Tell them that a ban on traditional ammunition will hurt conservation efforts by reducing funds due to pricing sportsmen out of the market.

    To find your Representative's contact information, please visit U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance.
     

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  2. 007BondJamesBond007

    007BondJamesBond007 New Member

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    It will not happen. He will not get any support from even his Demtards colleges.
     

  3. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    Why don't these people just say what they want to do. People that dance around the issue and try to backdoor things just piss me off. This guy thinks we're all too stupid to own guns and live our own lives. No one should be allowed to have guns or ammo except him and his body guards.
     
  4. pandamonium

    pandamonium New Member

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    ^^^^^What he said^^^^^!!
     
  5. opaww

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    H.R. 5820: Toxic Chemicals Safety Act of 2010 (GovTrack.us)

    There are 31 co-sponcers to this bill, and if you look at the names they are the same anti-gunners that always sponcer anti-gun/anti-rights bills. At least a few of them names are members of the democratic black caucus which is a known social-ist group.
     
  6. CA357

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    ...and now a word about his non-violent, gun hating history:

    "... During the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s, Congressman Rush worked to secure basic civil and human rights for African Americans, women and other minorities. He was a member of the Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) from 1966 to 1968. Congressman Rush also co-founded the Illinois Black Panther Party in 1968."

    oops!
     
  7. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    BTW, another of his gems from '09, HR45 creates so many restrictions that the Marine Corps probably wouldn't be allowed to have guns. :rolleyes:

    It goes after firearm owners, not guns. That way he can circumvent the Second Amendment.

    Here's an excellent read about him from Answers.com: Bobby Rush: Biography from Answers.com
     
  8. deathkricket

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    I will tell you right now this bill will not pass as every LE and Military force will have to discard billions of rounds of ammunition and buy more at twice the price, that will not happen plain and simple. Lead based ammo is to woven into the forces that protect us from "evil"
     
  9. Jpyle

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    Ironic that many gun control laws went in place after the Civil War to keep blacks in the South from owning weapons. Today, they are the gun grabbers...
     
  10. stalkingbear

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    If everybody sticks their heads in the sand and says "no way it could happen" then there's actually a good chance it could happen. That's the problem is we all need to get pro active and flood the phone lines/emails/and faxes instead of denial about it. Get off your *** and call/email/fax your representatives today! You can bet the anti gunners are calling and pressing THEIR point of view.
     
  11. LongueCarabine

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    That's right StalkingBear, everybody is out to get you and me too!

    You/We as American citizens excersizing our 2nd amendment rights have to be pro-active. I've been involved in 2nd amendment issues for 30 years and it always seems that just when you thought it was safe the people who think firearms have no place in our society come up with some other "In the back door Scheme". These people never give up, they don't sleep and niether can we. So call your Reps. Talk to your people, try to calmly and courteously convert/educate the ignorant. Freedom requires constant vigilance my friends.
    A'dios for now
     
  12. Overkill0084

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    Let's face it, since the EPA got smacked for trying to essentially make lead ammo HAZMAT, you had to know someone would attempt the same thing legislatively. As I recall, the only thing that stopped the EPA was a bureaucratic turf issue. We are at a dangerous time right now. It will be worse after Nov 3 with an angry bunch of lame duck liberals.
     
  13. LongueCarabine

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    WellSaid

    To overkill0084; That is an excellent quote from Ayn Rand. I'm not familiar with who she is but thhat quotation is right on the money! The purpose of rights are to protect the Minority. I've never heard the purpose of "Rights" expressed that way. Very Good!
    Longue Carabine
     
  14. planenut

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    I wouldn't bet on this being a deterrent... When they required RVSM on aircraft, the military aircraft were exempt. They still don't have to meet the same requirements nor the same licensing as the civilian requirements.

    RVSM put the aircraft closer together a few years ago by adding some expensive equipment to make sure their altitude equipment was not in error. This moved aircraft from 2000 feet vertical seperation to 1000 feet. There are no exemptions except for military who don't have to meet the same requirements. It only takes one to not be where it is supposed to be.

    They can outlaw the ammo and still allow the military to use it.
     
  15. Overkill0084

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    Hijack warning:
    Ayn Rand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    If you want some insight into the liberal/socialist mind, read Atlas Shrugged. Apparently our current administration is trying to reenact it. It is actually sort of unsettling to read it in this day in age if you follow the news. It is set in the early 50s, but she really nails it in some areas. However, she has a anti-religious streak as well, which some will find off-putting.
    It also takes about 350 pages to get going, not for those with short attention spans.
    Please resume your normally scheduled thread.
     
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    The initial attempt was through the rulemaking process in the EPA and it didn't even make it through the alloted comment period due to fierce opposition....In essence the BHO administration would not even endorse it. It smacks of election year antics. I guess the inner city guy is trying to shore up his base while adding to the DEMS problems. I hope the vote on this comes next year after the fresh meat has arrived.
     
  17. Rocky7

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    That's been the story in Canada, anyway.

    I am a recent member and certainly not here to tell Americans what to do in the U.S. It seems to me, though, that since we are up against a determined and international opponent, it would be helpful to share information.

    Gun grabbers are coordinated and funded. They mean to have our guns, alright. It won't be a sudden, outright ban. It will be done incrementally, by making gun ownership more and more difficult and restricted to a point where (they hope) the last gun owners who remain standing will not have enough voice to resist.

    IANSA is an umbrella organization. It is, or has been, funded by George Soros. Here's their model law (url broken to avoid tracking):

    http://w ww.iansa.org/documents/documents/ModelLaw.pdf

    They advance their cause under many guises - safety, crime, violence, suicide prevention, environmental claims,.....

    Gun Control is not about guns. It's about Control. These people mean well and therefore they pursue their fascist agenda with a clear conscience. I've never figured how to react to all that - other than drawing a hard line. Maybe I can learn something here that can help in our efforts in Canada.

    Thanks.
     
  18. FreedomFighter69

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    What a bunch of Crap ! Like it was said in earlier posts, it's just an excuse to get rid of guns alltogether. There's too much money involved in it and it will not happen. Other countries buy a lot of ammo from the US. I don't think they would like to spend more money on something less effective either. It would pretty much become a UN issue because of the anti-pollution/clean air policies of the world. This is too extreme and I doubt it will happen. The only other substance that acts as lead does is silver or mercury. Mercury is more toxic and silver too expensive ! Even currently the so-called "clean" ammo that's available, doesn't perform up to par. The NRA will never let this happen ! Heck, every hunter should be dead from lead poisoning ! A-Holes !
     
  19. Rocky7

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    Yes, it is. But a great many elitist liberals and their sheeple believe it. You and I say it is a turd. They are convinced it is a lumpy chocolate bar.

    We need to be paying attention and learning who these people are and what they really want. They are serious and they work at it. We need to do the same. :)
     
  20. FreedomFighter69

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    I listen to talk radio constantly ! I have blisters on my finger tips from writing so many letters to politicians over 2nd Amendment matters. I talk to as many people as I can to educate them and get them to write to their representatives . It's a long road I just hope those I educate, act on the matter. I know I do, but im only one person. Like you said we 'ALL" have to get involved, there is stregnth in numbers !