Conditioning the matte parkerized slide finish?

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by StainlessSteel215, May 3, 2013.

  1. StainlessSteel215

    StainlessSteel215 New Member

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    I was watching a youtube video of my boy Pete at the Armory Channel. A while back he picked up a Rock Island compact tactical 1911 and had his 'smith condition the metal to a smooth and satin end result. Ive never seen this process before but the gun looked fantastic and smooth afterwards. Thats honestly by biggest gripe with the Rock Islands...the cheap dull matte finish. This could be a nice workaround if the price is right....

    anyone have experience with this process? worth it?
     
  2. Olympus

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    Parkerizing is meant to be that way so that it will absorb and hold oil to prevent corrosion.

    If you want to see how the finish changes, simply take a clean tag with some heavy gun oil and start rubbing the oil into the metal. Do this regularly and you'll start seeing a smoother finish.
     

  3. StainlessSteel215

    StainlessSteel215 New Member

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    Really? Ive never owned a gun with the dull parkerized finish so I was weary...but if its as simple as working oil into the metal repeatedly I think I can get over this rough looking finish. Thanks man
     
  4. Olympus

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    No problem. I mean it's always going to be somewhat rough. That's just the nature of the parkerizing. But the oil will smooth it up a little over time and give it a more uniform color. If someone "polished" it out, I'd be afraid that they removed some of the protective finish off. Dull and rough and protective is better than smooth and polished and more likely to corrode.
     
  5. Hawg

    Hawg New Member

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    Automatic transmission fluid is good on parkerizing.
     
  6. thewildwonder

    thewildwonder New Member

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    Is that true!? How and why?
     
  7. DrumJunkie

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    I was curious about it sa well and got to looking . Seems that Automatic Transmission Fluid is a great deacidifying oil. I found it in a few different pages about parkerizing or blueing parts.
     
  8. HOSSFLY

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    Very true-
    I did mine over a week or so while watching TV at night :)
    Thats what i call multi-tasking :D
     
  9. thewildwonder

    thewildwonder New Member

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    Did you read it or actually try it? Two very different things lol
     
  10. bartwatkins

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    Opinions on the "best" lubes vary as much as "best" guns or "best" brand threads....
    That said however, I blend my own gun oil/lube and have for years. ATF fluid is great and is one of my main ingredients.
    I have a Springer loaded 1911 that is park'd and the finish responds to basically any oil/lube but ATF fluid is great on it too.
    So I actually try it (or have/do use it).

    Here is my mixture blend by the way:
    I use this oil blend exclusively on all my pistols and rifles.

    80% - Mobil 1 synthetic (5w-30)
    10% - Marvel Mystery Oil
    10% - Dextron VI ATF
     
  11. StainlessSteel215

    StainlessSteel215 New Member

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    So aside from putting your mystery blend on the moving parts of the slide & frame that require it....you also rub this into the slide to condition the metal and make it a little smoother?

    Results on a scale of 1-10?

    Thanks guys for all the input
     
  12. bartwatkins

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    Umm not sure how to rate it on a scale (as I don't really have anything to compare it against)...
    But yes, I liberally rub it into the finish and have done this for years. It has both smoothed out somewhat and also changed the color over time to a more darker matte black.

    But it is not "smoothed out" to the point of looking like a polished blued finish or anything. It is still a dull matte black.

    That said the gun is Alchemy Custom as we speak and will come back with a satin black Bearcoat (teflon based similar to Armory Kote) finish.
     
  13. StainlessSteel215

    StainlessSteel215 New Member

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    Thanks Bart, Im going to use your magic recipe!

    The dull drabby parkerized has always bothered me...a darker more rich and shiny black finish could be the cure
     
  14. bartwatkins

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    OK & also if you want to play around just a bit with the proportions of ATF & Marvel Oil - you can do that (I do sometimes).
    Marvel Mystery Oil is a great penetrating oil (similar to Kano Kroil) but just like Kroil, it is extremely thin or not viscous at all.

    If you prefer your oil mixture to be just a bit more thick - you can go 15% ATF and 5% Marvel Mystery Oil
    Just play around with that a bit as the more Marvel Myster Oil you use the thinner your mixture will be.

    One thing is for sure - a quart or Mobil 1 will last you for a long, long time!
     
  15. thewildwonder

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    So you make your own but have nothing to compare it to?... How do you know other oils aren't better then?
     
  16. bartwatkins

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    I'm just good that way :)

    Seriously....
    I think that the question was - what do I have to compare it to specifically in regards to rubbing the oil containing ATF fluid into a parkerized finish and will that aid in smoothing the finish.
    I have blended my lubricating oil mixture for years and have owned my SA loaded (with park'd finish) since 2011. I have never rubbed any other oil into it's finish. Thus my answer.

    As far as the lubricating qualities of oils. To me, it is not a question of "better" but a question of "just as good" and/or "more cost effective".

    I purchased gun oil in all of it's various brand/types for years and years at X dollar amount for like 2 oz or 4 oz or 6 oz (most gun oil is sold at these packaged amounts).
    When I compared that to the cost of just buying my own by the quart and blending it myself, I found that it was far more cost effective.
    In my opinion, commercial packaged gun oils are essentially the exact same thing as what I blend - just packaged and sold to be much more expensive by the fluid ounce.

    Again, opinions vary with lubricants just as much as they do with favorite brands and types of guns themselves. So take my opinions for what they are worth. If you want to blend and try mine - go for it. If you want to stick with commercially sold oil, fine too.

    PS - Another person who blends a very similar mixture on this forum is Canebrake. I also believe that he has done this for years too.
     
  17. thewildwonder

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    So you never used anything else on a Parker finish... Sounds legit
     
  18. Olympus

    Olympus New Member

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    That's too much work. It's a lot easier to give hassle to other people on forums.
     
  19. trip286

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    I stripped the parkerizing from mine...



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    And blued it.



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  20. bige91603

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    I'm duracoating my RIA GI, the park is supposed to make a great base for the coat to adhere to. But that's just the slide so I have been rubbing in some heavy coats of rem oil on the stripped frame. So far it looks much better, doesn't have that powderish looking finish anymore