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Concealed Carry Permits.........who has one?
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I don't have a permit yet. Will be getting one very shortly. My stepdad and I will take the course together. Just waiting on his auto to come back from the gunsmith. Here if you take the course with a revolver you cannot carry and auto, but if you take the course with an auto you can carry a revolver as well.
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Keep it legal - get your CCW ASAP
While I feel any legal citizen has the right to possess and carry firearms, the realities are that you can end up in prison. Make it easy on yourself while you vote to get the bad politicians out of office. One day we might not need the permits.
Rule of thumb - don't trust ANYONE running for office that doesn't trust you with a firearm. Be a one issue voter.
While I feel any legal citizen has the right to possess and carry firearms, the realities are that you can end up in prison. Make it easy on yourself while you vote to get the bad politicians out of office. One day we might not need the permits.
Rule of thumb - don't trust ANYONE running for office that doesn't trust you with a firearm. Be a one issue voter.
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I certainly do respect your opinion and your decisions. And I agree you can go to prison, for various reasons gun related or not. However very few Americans have gone to prison because they were legally carrying a gun whether that be concealed or open carry. Most conflicts involving a person carrying a legal gun for self-defense do not end in gun fire. A permit to carry a gun open carry or concealed carry is not a permit to use it. About the only relationship between concealed carry and shooting someone is, concealed carry provides a convenient option if the decision is made to shoot. It's always the person who does the shooting, not the concealed gun. On the other hand, to my knowledge, no one has ever been imprisoned for not carrying a gun and dieing at that hands of their attacker because they were not capable of defending themselves.While I feel any legal citizen has the right to possess and carry firearms, the realities are that you can end up in prison. Make it easy on yourself while you vote to get the bad politicians out of office. One day we might not need the permits.
Rule of thumb - don't trust ANYONE running for office that doesn't trust you with a firearm. Be a one issue voter.
Everyone has a choice and should make up their own mind to carry a gun or not, most do not, I do carry and most of the time legally.
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I'm an instructor trainer in MN and I spend the majority of my classroom time talking about the law and the pitfalls. Once we have that out of the way I make it very clear that if you are going to carry you need to have the proper mindset to defend yourself and others. You may have to pay the piper criminally and eat some costs in a civil trial but it sure beats have six feet of dirt over your head. And yes if I'm awake I'm carrying.
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In Italy she is allowed to all the healthy citizens of mind and without previous offences to possess weapons.
She is allowed everybody to possess weapons in his own house.
The law on the legitimate defense says:
1- It is not punishable who has committed the fact to be forces you to defend a proper right or other people's against the actual danger of an unfair offense.
2-In the anticipated cases of intrusion in her own house, the relationship of proportion subsists if someone present legitimately in one of the suitable places here it uses a weapon legitimately held or other fit mean with the purpose to defend:
a) the proper one or other people's life:
b) the proper good or other people's, when there is not escape and there is danger of aggression.
The disposition is also applied in the case in which the fact has happened where inside every other place a commercial, professional or entrepreneurial activity is practiced.
She is allowed everybody to possess weapons in his own house.
The law on the legitimate defense says:
1- It is not punishable who has committed the fact to be forces you to defend a proper right or other people's against the actual danger of an unfair offense.
2-In the anticipated cases of intrusion in her own house, the relationship of proportion subsists if someone present legitimately in one of the suitable places here it uses a weapon legitimately held or other fit mean with the purpose to defend:
a) the proper one or other people's life:
b) the proper good or other people's, when there is not escape and there is danger of aggression.
The disposition is also applied in the case in which the fact has happened where inside every other place a commercial, professional or entrepreneurial activity is practiced.
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Hi sparalesto,
Here in the US most of the self-defense laws are left to the individual states. Although some are similar, they all have some differences. For example in my home state of Arizona, our self-defense laws are very similar to yours with maybe the exception of "escape". We have no burden to find an escape, although other states in the US have such requirements.
Are you restricted from carrying a concealed weapon? If so do have any provisions for a permit to do so?
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Here in the US most of the self-defense laws are left to the individual states. Although some are similar, they all have some differences. For example in my home state of Arizona, our self-defense laws are very similar to yours with maybe the exception of "escape". We have no burden to find an escape, although other states in the US have such requirements.
Are you restricted from carrying a concealed weapon? If so do have any provisions for a permit to do so?
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I cannot shoot in the back of a robber that escapes, I would be condemned for homicide.
For the Italian law it doesn't have sense shoot to a robber that escapes because she wants to mean that the danger is stopped.
She is restricted from carryng a concealed handgun.
She is allowed alone for citizen that show to the authorities to develop a job to risk of criminals.
However all citizens can hold weapons in the house.
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sparalesto,
I missed understood your first post when you used the word "escape" I thought you meant, if the home owner had a means to retreat from the threat and escape then they could not shoot.
Apparently you meant if the intruder was making an escape, that is withdrawal, you can not shoot. Sorry for the misunderstanding. That is the same here in the US and especially in Arizona. You can defend yourself against an attack, however if the attacker is retreating, leaving and no longer on the attack, in general we can not use lethal force to stop them (although there are special circumstances which would provide for this).
Sorry for the misinterpretation of your original words.
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There are no problems for the misunderstanding.
Excuse me for my english language that is not of the best.
Excuse me for my english language that is not of the best.
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throw out politicians
here we even have to have a permit just to have a pistol in your own household,and you almost have to justify a reason to get a pistol permit.
luckily I have a valid conceal and carry from another state,and work security,which is state licensed,so it should be easier to get a permit.
here we even have to have a permit just to have a pistol in your own household,and you almost have to justify a reason to get a pistol permit.
luckily I have a valid conceal and carry from another state,and work security,which is state licensed,so it should be easier to get a permit.
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Have carried all my life (now 63) and have been legal for the past 20 years.
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While I voted "yes... I have a permit", I don't have a concealed carry permit. My state does not issue those. My state issues handgun carry permits. They don't specify that the permit is for concealed carry, it is also required for open carry.
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