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Discussion in 'Gun Shows' started by glockman55, Dec 12, 2011.
Is it common practice to ban concealed carry at most Gun Shows?
It is up here in Minnesota/Western Wisconsin.
Here in Kansas it usually is. But since a lot of the places have taken down the gun buster signs, they usually just tape a piece of paper up saying no carry. I know a few people will walk by the signs since they don't comply with state law.
It is here in MS, I don't like it myself but I somewhat understand it after being at a gun show where some idiot started firing off rounds by mistake.
Just because the venue is for buying, selling, and trading guns, doesn't mean that everyone there is smart enough to handle one. And unfortunately that goes double for SOME permit holders.
When there are a lot of guns in one place, especially with how stupid some people are, the likelihood of having a fatal accident is increased
I dont do it cuz of signs but because i dont want to be accused of sticking someone's stock item in my pants if im made carrying.
Its prolly irrational but its what i think lol
The only gun show I was allowed to carry was the NRA Convention in Phoenix AZ. Most of them dont allow carry and require all guns to be disabled with a plastic tie. There was an incident at one show where someone loaded a round into a 45 auto. The dealer was busy but was kind of suspicious when the guy set the pistol down and took off in a hurry. He checked the pistol mostly because he thought the guy might have stolen a part and found the live round. He was evidently trying to create an incident and did not care who got hurt.
Prolly one of eric holder's personal batfe f&f men.
Shows I go to require all firearms that pass the two nice police officers at the door to be zip tied. Concern is a LOT of guns and a LOT of people in a very small space.
There was a show not too long ago where a dealer had a ND inside the show. He and his merchandise were removed from the show posthaste, and the officers at the show arrested him.
It did not seem to find disapproval of anyone at the show, with several hundred people in the show. Nobody hurt which was DAMNED lucky.
We have the same two police at our shows for the same reason. I agree with the policy. Could you imagine what would happen in a room full of armed folks, many of whom are yahoos, when (and it would be when) an AD happened. It could be like the old time pie fights in the Three Stooges, only with bullets.
Something like that could end gunshows in our state.
I don't agree with this way of thinking. I just don't go to any Gun shows anymore, most everything is over priced anyway..But I guess I can't see a problem, any permit holder is supposed to be a responsible and component to carry a firearm, so I just can't see what the difference is in the gun show vs Walmart.. It should be dealt with by the law, if a CPL holder breaks the law then he pays the price. We all shouldn't have to pay for these Morons. Like that will ever change...Right?
The local gun shows invite all types to see the displays.
The unsafe handling of firearms demonstrated by most people makes me cringe.
Here's the way I look at it, and you may disagree, and rightfully you should disagree, because in a perfect world we would all think, act and behave like responsible adults.
I've seen many people that should not have a carry permit. These are the irresponsible people, the yahoos, jackasses, and the "Militia Nutjobs" (Not downing all militia, but most of you know the type I'm talking about)
Do y'all know why more people die in car accidents than airplanes? Because there's more cars on the road than there are planes in the air.
By the same token, if you put that many armed people in a confined space, the idiots are bound to make their appearance, and yes, as Glockman mentioned, we shouldn't have to pay the consequences of these morons actions, however, it is an imperfect world we live in. I mentioned something about someone firing off live rounds at a gun show while I was in attendance, so here's the story.
I can't remember the name of the town, but it was near Moorehead City, north of Jacksonville NC. Just some random guy, who was out shopping for his first handgun, and he asked the vendor he was talking to how to operate it. This IDIOT vendor showed the man how to load and chamber a round with LIVE ammunition, and let the guy handle it.
Some of you may think you know where I'm going with this. It wasn't the random, non gun educated bumpkin who fired off the rounds, it was the VENDOR after the man handed the gun back, for some reason he pulled the trigger. He said he was so shocked by the gun going off that he flinched and pulled it again. 2 shots, in a crowded, confined area, by a man who should have been (and likely was on any other day of the week) knowledgeable in the safe handling of firearms, and a responsible person.
No injuries or deaths, thank God.
gunshows in alaska seem to from on it. i don't agree with it but i do understand why
As was stated earlier about Florida, the State Policeman at the door wireties the gun safe and in you go. In Orlando, with the generally large crowds, I am okay with it.
There are too many people and too many opportunities for accidents. I am okay with it. I walk out and cut the tie with my pocket knife, and if I have bought some rounds, re-load. No one says anything about it, and the LEO community is well represented outside the buildings.
Gun shows I have gone to Zip Tie them.
I agree with you 100%, it just makes no sense at all. I guess I'm not responsible to carry my gun in a place that sells guns and knives, right! Also what really makes me laugh is the sign on the door of my local gun shop. "No concealed weapons allowed". Are you kidding me or what!
What I understand from a Gunshow Administrator responding to this question is. The gunshow insurance policy requires them to have the no loaded weapons rule. They wouldn't get insurance if they didn't comply. The administrator said they wouldn't have that rule unless it was required/dictated by the insurance.
It's not a problem at the shows I attend here in Texas. The one requirement is that your gun be unloaded while you're in the show area. Usually a LEO will be at the door and ask if you have a firearm before you enter. If you do, he'll ask you to unload the gun, he will do a visual check to ensure the weapon is empty then pass you through.
At Knob Creek in West Point Ky they require your firearm be unloaded and a big orange zip tie is passed through the action so theres no doubt your weapon is empty.