Competitive semi-auto suggestions.

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by Nake48, Jul 28, 2010.

  1. Nake48

    Nake48 New Member

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    I was bitten by the gun bug a long time ago, and aside from home defense I wanted to get into competitive shooting/combat competition shooting. I saw the forum on this site, but I wanted suggestions of what everyone else on here has to say about gun choice/caliber/model etc... My most accurate handgun I own is my .45ACP EAA witness match elite (sorry no picture yet I will upload after work), it's big heavy and all stainless steel. Holds 10+1 and the clips for this thing are rare; about the beretta 92FS price of $50.00 each, so not really cheap. Any and all advice is greatly appreciated.
     
  2. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Trying not to sound biased - 1911a1 - the ONLY handgund that will meet your needs!
     

  3. Nake48

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    I'd eventually like to get a 1911 I love the style of them, but my main problem with 1911's is they are pricey, well for the one's I have seen in town even used one's at gunshow's are pricey. Some I see are in the $1000+ or even $2,000+ range.
     
  4. Angry_bald_guy

    Angry_bald_guy Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    You can get a Rock Island for around 400. No frills, but a decent gun to build from.
     
  5. NGIB

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    The 1911s I currently own run from a $400 no-name to a $1500 (used) semi-custom. To be totally honest - I shoot the cheap gun about as well as I shoot the expensive one. I've owned well over 2 dozen different 1911s in the past 5 years (I trade guns a lot) and I can tell you that you can get a good one for under $500. Nothing at all wrong with the Rock Islands - just use quality magazines (not clips) in any of them.

    What kind of competitions do you want to shoot?
     
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  6. Nake48

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    I don't know all the different types of competitions, but mainly combat competitive for quicker aiming, faster target recognition, as long as it is not a rim-fire competition. I have looked at a Rock Island previously, I own two .45's right now and I have to say it's a tie between 9mm and .45's for my favorite they are both really comfortable to fire. I'm leaning more towards a 1911 or 1911A1 trying to find what is best what is most comfortable, after all practice is the main thing with a pistol.
     
  7. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Take a look at what is used by top competitors. Most use the 1911a1 in some form or another. For serious competition, check out the Springfield loaded in 9mm (if power factor is a non-issue), otherwise, go for the .45ACP.
    Nothing against the RIA, but consider that you want as much as an advantage as possible. The SA loaded already has most of the work done that would be needed on the RIA for it to be a serious contender.
     
  8. NGIB

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    The type of competition really drives which pistol platform would be ideal. For example, I shoot a lot of bowling pin matches where accuracy and "hitting" power is crucial - so I use a 1911 in .45 ACP. If you're considering IDPA type shoots, the type of gun commonly used in my area focuses more on higher capacity and light recoil so 9mm is very popular. If you're thinking IPSC, the criteria could change again as lots of folks use full blown race guns.

    Decide what competitions interest you and that will help determine a proper gun selection. Or, just buy a few of each and you're set...
     
  9. Gatekeeper

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    While you can shoot your 1911 in the "race gun" divisions (open class and limited) if you so choose, there is no reason to fear being put against the race guns.
    USPSA (ipsc in the usa) has a separate division for the 1911 called "single stack" You are limited to using 1911 style pistols with single column magazines and very few modifications permitted.
    If you shoot major power factor (45acp, 10mm and full power 40) you are limited to 8rds per mag.
    If you shoot minor PF (9mm,38 super, 40) you can use up to 10rd mags, but the trade off is hits outside of the A-zone score lower than if you were shooting major PF

    I shoot major with a Kimber 1911 in 45auto
    A buddy recently switched to a 1911 and bought a Rock Island in 9mm and shoots minor and has been doing very well. No problems with the RI through about 700rds.
     
  10. Nake48

    Nake48 New Member

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    Now I'm interested in the RI type 1911. I have shot many guns that clone the 1911 but few that have the dead-shot accuracy that most people claim 1911's do. I will get one probably around January or earlier if the price for an RI is still sub $600. Is there a link to these competition rules? I am not that great of a shot yet with the other .45's I have fired. But I do want to try another brand besides Springfield to see if it's my fire method or some other way the grips/grip safety feels and getting a comfortable fit for it.
     
  11. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper New Member

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    For Uspsa goto United States Practical Shooting Association
    From the menu on the left side of the page click on match rules then click on the link for 2008 Handgun Rules

    There is also alot of info on the home page menu as far as what is uspsa, the history and how the game is played, a locator to find local matches, and a "how do I get started" section
    You don't have to join a club or even pay for a membership in the USPSA to participate in your local matches.
    Give it a try, what have you got to lose? ;)
     
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  12. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Youtube has videos of USPSA / IPSC shooting. I would think there are also IDPA videos. Good luck.
     
  13. Nake48

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    Thanks everyone, the input is appreciated. Can't wait to try competition as soon as I get the appropriate funds to start with a new RI 1911.
     
  14. utf59

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    You can find rules and information about IDPA at their website. Many clubs will let you compete in at least one match without joining the association.

    One range I go to hosts what they call Action Pistol matches. They are conducted with USPSA rules and scoring, but they aren't sanctioned. Check out ranges in your area to see what they have to offer. If you want to get serious about competing, though, join whichever association suits you and go to sanctioned matches. That way you'll have the opportunity to qualify for national matches.

    The same range that has Action Pistol competition has orientation classes. They go over the rules, show you how the targets are scored, and they set up a simple stage and let everyone shoot it for time to get a feel for a match. Maybe there's something like that near you.