common sense win for wisconsin

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by JonM, Feb 1, 2012.

  1. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Ive been holding off posting this until more facts were known.

    Monday evening a wisconsin ccw permit holder stopped two shotgun armed young men out robbing people because they were just turning their lives around. He shot one the other ran off. The goblin that was shot was arrested trying to get his bullet holes fixed.

    The interesting part is the Aldi store was a posted no guns please rob us establishment. The two unarmed security guards did nothing.

    The most the good guy will face is a civil forfeiture of up to 1000$ for ignoring the sign. Its not even a misdemeanor offense. A traffic ticket has more consequences. Hopefully our pos da will wave charging him.

    Link: http://www.wisn.com/news/30338153/detail.html
     
  2. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    Welcome to a very serious schizophrenic country!
     

  3. Triumphman

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    That's too bad, as the only smart person at the store was the CCW holder. Having not 1, BUT 2 guards unharmed, just goes to show how foolish this store is in deterring robbers---serves them right. At least I hope the Aldi store helps out the Permit Holder in Court to get him off with the fine, and hires him to guard the place instead of Dumb & Dumber.
    Del
     
  4. Paladin201

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    I always love hearing stories where a CCW holder stopped a serious crime. Good on.

    Fortunately, here in MO, there is no penalty whatsoever for carrying in a posted establishment. The law allows owners to put the signs up, and it allows CCW holders to ignore them. Which makes the signs rather pointless.
     
  5. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Interesting. Keep us posted on the progress if this situation. I'd like to see where it goes.
     
  6. 007BondJamesBond007

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    The Aldi store near me removed the GFZ sign.
     
  7. Paladin201

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    This is kind of related to that Michigan pharmacist, with a CCW license, who carried at work in violation of Walgreen's standing no gun policy. He drew that gun and used it during an armed robbery at the store. They fired him for it. He's not talking, since he's filed a law suit over it, but I'm sure he'd say that he'd rather be alive and unemployed than the alternative,

    Like I said, it's not a crime in Missouri to carry on posted property, but even if it wasn't, I'd carry there anyway. Unless I'm stupid, no one will know I'm carrying unless I need to use it.
     
  8. temwc20

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    Do you have any knowledge of the Kansas posted property laws? I am a ccw Mo permit holder and live close to the Ks. border. Haven't been able to find anything on it.
     
  9. phburks

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    Found this link: http://ag.ks.gov/public-safety/concealedcarry/approved-signage

    Check out the PDF file with the statutes linked to on the bottom of that site.

    Looks like in Kansas its a misdemeanor to carry on property where proper signage is posted prohibiting concealed weapons.
     
  10. 007BondJamesBond007

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    From the graphic it looks to me as a no Beretta 92 sign. Guess I will carry my 1911 in that store.[​IMG] I think I will hang one of the signs on my door. I may sleep better at night.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO0F6enwzEo[/ame]
     
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  11. temwc20

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    Thanks man!
     
  12. JonM

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    Update:

    this is from tmj4 in milwaukee a liberal rag that seldom if ever gets a story right or even the facts correct. take it for what its worth...

    Attached is criminal complaint of Edyon Hibbler and Dierre Cotton. You can read it under Related Documents.


    here are the two goblins just out getting their lives turned around...

    this is the only one that was in the store pointing a shotgun at people.

    [​IMG]

    this is the getaway driver

    [​IMG]
     
  13. mkett39

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    Looks like two upstanding young citizens!:(
     
  14. neilage66

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    Thank you for posting this Jon, I hadn't read about this one until now.
     
  15. AIKIJUTSU

    AIKIJUTSU New Member

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    Unarmed security guards. An oxymoron if I ever heard one. Like Congressional Intelligence Committee.
     
  16. Zodiac131911

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    Do you honestly think most guards like being unarmed. I know I don't, what are we supposed to protect when we can't even protect ourselves.
     
  17. JonM

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    Comments about the security guard are directed at aldi's policies not personally at the guard himself. We understand its the pro-crime attitude of aldi's for the guard being unarmed.
     
  18. dragunovsks

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    The aldi store in my area doesnt have a no firearm policy.
     
  19. Polygon

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    It's really bitter sweet. I just hope that the DA has some sense and drops the charges. I also hope the store owner grows a brain and takes that idiotic sign down.

    If I were a store owner it would have a sign out front stating that CCW holders are welcome and invited to come it. Give something for criminals to think about before they come in.

    Same here, with the exception of state a federal government buildings. I'm 99.9% sure I lost a job because someone spotted it. It was a terrible company anyways and now I'm working for a much better employer that's gun friendly. And like you said, I'd rather be unemployed than the alternative. The choice between anything and your life is a simple one.
     
  20. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    The whole darned state I live in has a "no firearm" policy. :(