Coming "Out of the Closet is liberating!"

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by Tackleberry1, Apr 28, 2013.

  1. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    Yesterday I attended my first "open carry" rally!

    Open Carry Vancouver made the news a few months back when they drew 100 or so OC activists to Caffe Villa Coffee Shop on NE 4th Plain Blvd.

    I checked out there Facebook page and decided to attend the second event.

    The most striking thing I noticed was the absolute lack of bravado by anyone and the complete lack of LEO presence... did not see a single Cop despite the coffee shop sharing a parking lot with a very busy 24 HR Fitness.

    All were Friendly and the Hilight was getting to meet Sherrif Mack who I was very surprised to see at such a small event.

    I will admit that exiting my truck to stroll across the parking lot with a Kimber strapped to my right hip and a dual mag pouch on the left was an interesting feeling despite 17 of concealed EDC.

    Not being an "activist" at heart, I don't think I'll be strolling about OC style with a camera... Not my cup of tea... But I've gained a new respect for those who do. ;)

    Tack
     
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  2. JimRau

    JimRau Well-Known Member Supporter

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    We had a similar event in Haleyville last month and I and the Sheriff attended. I met some REALLY good folks. I do not open carry and advice against it for tactical reasons, but I support the RIGHT 100%! :D
     

  3. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    I think OC in a metropolitan area is counterproductive, finger-in-their-eye, misplaced effort. Mack is an interesting guy although a disgruntled anarchist. Good you got out and got involved though Tack. Try a TEA Party event next instead maybe to primarily carry a sign or flag instead?
     
  4. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    The location of this event really could not be described as "Metropolitan". More like the "outskirts" and no where near the downtown core.

    I too question the value of lone OCers strutting through a mall or downtown core with an AR15 on there back but this was quite different. A planned event so LEO's knew it was Comming, at a private business who welcomed the rally and the dollars we brought in.

    My research into this group and the nature of there attitudes is why I chose to check them out. ;)

    Tack
     
  5. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    I've always stayed away from it as well for the same tactical reasons but it's occured to me that I've never seen or heard of a single incident where a nut job opened fire in the presence of an openly armed citizen.

    Thats either an extreme lucky streak... or perhaps the criminals and cooks simply leave and seek a softer target?

    I'm thinking there is a strong deterrent value in the vicinity of the openly armed citizen.

    Tack
     
  6. readygirl

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    I have become really comfortable with open carry. Everybody OCs at the shop, to and from the shop. So if i need to stop for something on the way home,etc. I really dont even think about it. I live in a rural area, and see other people around town OC, So no big deal where i live.
     
  7. Pasquanel

    Pasquanel Proud to be an American Supporter

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    I totally agree with Hock on this one "misplaced effort"! In todays misinformed society OP is counter productive at best! This present society is being indoctrinated to fear all and any fire-arm! its perfectly legal to open carry in my area (ME, NH, VT.) but it is far from prudent, most people recoil at the sight of someone carrying openly and call the police who must in turn respond to the call!
     
  8. JimRau

    JimRau Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Stop and think about it and 'we' are taking a part from the progressive playbook. What they do is first 'normalize' their position them they 'legalize' it. Is many people starting to OC going to make it the norm? If we normalize it in some areas it will be able to be legalized in others. We did this with CC. When many jurisdictions who were against CC saw it was not a problem and did not manifest into the 'old west gunfight' they made it legal. :)
     
  9. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    Sure... But the ensuing police contact is not the fault of the person exercising there civil liberties. It's not even the fault of the Cop who's been trained to be a good little storm trooper and check out a citizen who's engaging in no illegal activity.

    The problem is the perception of the "sheep" and the piss poor training of 911 operators.

    Rather than saying "yes Sir, we'll get an officer out there ASAP", they should be telling the caller that OC is perfectly legal, asking some qualifying questions and asking them call back if the "subject" does anything threatening.

    People hell bent on mayhem don't walk down the street with a holstered pistol on there hip or a slung longarm on there back.

    I don't see myself doing this but I appreciate those who do.

    Civil dissobedience has been used by the left for decades to challenge social norms and usher is change, some good, some not so good, so I see no reason to condemn those who use it for 2A awareness.

    Tack
     
  10. 7point62

    7point62 Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    "An armed society is a polite society." -- Robert Heinlein
     
  11. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    I have no problem with open carry where it is legal. I cc simply because I like the element of surprise. I have been to one open carry rally. I carried my 1911. I feel these rallies are important. The more people realize that we are normal people and not a bunch of crazies the better. But I like organized events. Not big on Bubba carrying his AR through the mall. While it may not be illegal. I feel like it does scare uninformed people a lot more than a handgun does.
     
  12. WNGMSTR

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    Right on Tack!!
     
  13. JimRau

    JimRau Well-Known Member Supporter

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    According to the Constitution both OC and CC is legal EVERYWHERE!;)
     
  14. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    Bingo... And even better than expanding 2A rights is the humiliation suffered by the Pelosi's, Schumers, and Reed's of the world when there International puppet masters look down there noses at all of us American Cowboys saying Eff U to there the European Socialist agenda by strolling through San Franciso, Manhattern, and Flagstaff with 1911's on our hips. :cool:

    Tack
     
  15. MaxImpactGuns

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    I'm sorry but I'm all for OC.When someone can give me some valid factual statistics in an instance where a bad guy has overtaken a good guy successfully by removing the weapon from an OC'er then I'll have a different view. But I've never heard of that happening. Majority of people who see someone with a gun walking around are NOT going to mess with you. I'm aware of my surroundings at all times. Very very cautious anymore simply because I don't trust anyone. People need to get a reverse effect on seeing a firearm in the open that is not a police officer. Personally I'd rather carry concealed, but I think those who have to option and wish to carry open should and would more than likely not get messed with other than by police.
     
  16. JoFu

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    "Comming "Out of the Closet is liberating!"

    While I applaud your bravery, this isn't a topic we generally discuss here.

    This link should be helpful :D
    http://lgbtcommunityforum.com/
     
  17. rocshaman

    rocshaman New Member

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    Jofu, you're humor doesn't cut it.
     
  18. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    It was a "pun" JoFu...

    But I am curious? Did you need to search out that link? Or just quick
    Post it from the top of you list of "favorites" ;)

    Tack
     
  19. rocshaman

    rocshaman New Member

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    Hahahah, my thoughts exactly......
     
  20. bluez

    bluez Well-Known Member

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    Its all about challenging social norms and though challenge desensitizing the public and in so doing change the social norms.

    I applaud all who do!!

    I make my living with my security clearance and even a false arrest is still something I have to explain to Big Brother on my form 73.. so I would never OC on my own.

    But i might at a rally.