Hey gurus. Please take pity on an ignorant man and offer advice. I'm looking at my first AR buy and am torn between a Rock River Arms CAR 15, and a Colt carbine. Both do NOT have a chrome bolt carrier group, but the Rock River might have the 2 stage trigger. They are both new, and priced at $879 for the RR, and $1,119 for the Colt. I am looking for quality, and rock solid reliability. If you have advice and/or suggestions, please contribute. I am looking in that price range. Thank you FTF family.
Colt or Rock River Arms?
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Neither the chromed BCG or 2 stage trigger matter a lick for reliability. Both are simple upgrades if future funds are available. Both the Colt and RRA are fine, reliable rifles that will serve you well for years to come. It really boils down to finances and personal preference. Me personally, I would go with the RRA and use the savings for a good red dot or some other accessory. YMMV
Thanks jpyle! Ill wait for others to chime in before I bite the bullet on which carbine, but I've lined up a magpul stock, vertical foregrip, mako quad rail, some pro mags, Troy industries buis, and an eotech. I'll have to track down a vortex flash hider next!
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Rock solid reliable? I've never heard any complaints about colt AR's EVER. Nuff said? Research the www. See what you can find.
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colt hands down. rra are good guns ive got a rra national match a2 and their 458socom upper. if you want a milspec rugged gotowar zombie shtf gun then no contest its the colt. if you want a tack driving shooter for the range and your not going to run it hard and put it away wet then rra will do the job.
ive broken a few parts in my rra and its only a light use range gun that never is allowed to over heat in the slightest.
i LOVE my RRA its a tack driving monster but i wont take it to war and its not the gun that i will pick up if things go ohsht.
ive broken a few parts in my rra and its only a light use range gun that never is allowed to over heat in the slightest.
i LOVE my RRA its a tack driving monster but i wont take it to war and its not the gun that i will pick up if things go ohsht.
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I own both, two completely different guns for two completely different purposes.
The Colt LE6940 is a LW carbine and just can't be beat for this job.
The RRA is a 458SOCOM hog getter. Another "can't be beat for the job" gun.
What do you want to do with your AR?
I have nothing but praise for both and happy with my choice.
cane
The Colt LE6940 is a LW carbine and just can't be beat for this job.
The RRA is a 458SOCOM hog getter. Another "can't be beat for the job" gun.
What do you want to do with your AR?
I have nothing but praise for both and happy with my choice.
cane
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Another member of the BCM Fan Club beat me to my "well...imo..."
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for that i prefer colt or bcm but colt doesnt offer a midlength 556. so i went with bcm
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Colt, Daniel Defense, or BCM. Those are the only rifles I would ever TRULY trust my life to. They make everything to military specification and hand check everything before it leaves. Customer service and quality control is unmatched and I've yet to experience a malfunction with my DD or BCM that wasn't magazine related. In my opinion the colt AR line is a bit overpriced, and should be. It's a colt. The best known name in firearms. The DD can be a little high as well if you don't shop around. So all in all if I were you I would be looking at a BCM mid-length carbine. Lightweight is good but not necessary. I wouldn't go heavy barrel though. LW or gov profile is best for what you would be doing. Rock solid platform for range and SHTF. Look up the filthy 14 and the DD torture test. Both rifles put through absolute hell and keep on eatin. In the end the decision is yours to make. If I had to have one rifle forever, it would probably be my BCM middy govt profile with DD lite rail. Mind you I have only had her a week now and only have 450 rnds thru her. I still have full confidence in what she is capable of. I plan on being very rough on that gun, not on purpose but without pampering. I'm excited about what I will find. Spend your money on good guns and good optics and you'll never regret it. You buy cheap, you'll buy twice. Happy shooting.Mosin said:
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Order online at bravocompanyusa.com. Ordered my upper on Friday two and a half weeks ago and had it at my door the following tues. they're not backed up. They're just putting out!! Lol. I'll be happy to answer or help with any questions you may have along the way. Think very hard and research greatly what you want on your weapon. There are so many options that you will inevitably add things after you think you're set. But it's best to think as far into it as you can before purchase. Certain set ups for certain things. If they still have it the EAG tactical upper or complete rifles are pretty neat. If not shop around in the complete uppers section. 14.5 or 16". I like em as short as possible without getting the NRA involved so I go 14.5 with pinned muzzle device. There is no "this one is better than that one" on BCM.com either. They wouldn't sell junk. Everything is good stuff.Mosin said:
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If you want to shoot tight groups at the range and that's it...get the RRA.
If you want to fight off hoards of zombies/aliens/etc...advantage Colt. Or better yet, go with a BCM or Spikes middy build. Better gun, less money, in my moderately informed opinion.
I know a lot of 1911 and AR fans who love their Colts. Heck, I wouldn't mind adding either one. But I also know a LGS owner (and recent Army Ranger) who used to be a big Colt homer on both accounts. He's now 100% sworn both off due to what he calls '"inconsistent quality and lack of integrity".
Please understand, that's just me telling you someone else's opinion. But it is an opinion I respect. Colt has produced a lot of good product. They also seem to dwell in a constant state of mismanagement and bankruptcy, according to my friend.
If you want to fight off hoards of zombies/aliens/etc...advantage Colt. Or better yet, go with a BCM or Spikes middy build. Better gun, less money, in my moderately informed opinion.
I know a lot of 1911 and AR fans who love their Colts. Heck, I wouldn't mind adding either one. But I also know a LGS owner (and recent Army Ranger) who used to be a big Colt homer on both accounts. He's now 100% sworn both off due to what he calls '"inconsistent quality and lack of integrity".
Please understand, that's just me telling you someone else's opinion. But it is an opinion I respect. Colt has produced a lot of good product. They also seem to dwell in a constant state of mismanagement and bankruptcy, according to my friend.
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NFA not NRA. Lol. ATF is a better acronym.broke-again124 said:
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They always say they're "back ordered." Shoot them an e-mail, have your FFL call. I've had my last two "back ordered" BCM's in less than 9 business days.
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RRA is a good gun, couple of shooting buddies have them. But I will always believe in Colt. Had one as a service rifle, and they thing can take a beating and still be on target at 500 meters with open sights. Not sure what length of barrel ,gas system , and twist rate your looking to get. Make sure you know what your expectations are for the weapon and buy the right configuration to meet those needs. I owned an AR in the past but sold it , and now I'm 80% complete on a build from scratch and I'm still having a hard time figuring how I want to finish the barrel. I want CQC and an accurate range rifle, but I got to compromise somewhere. When buying a complete rifle make sure you know all the specs, an how they relate to your expectations.
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