Colt 1860 Army Revolver

Discussion in 'Blackpowder & Musket' started by Hightide, Feb 28, 2013.

  1. Hightide

    Hightide New Member

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    I need some advice. I stopped by a gun store tonight and they just got in a trade...a Colt 1860 Army from I guess back when Colt started remaking them again...(was that late 1970s or 1980s?).
    In any event, I am not a black powder shooter. I had a Lyman replica 1860 back in the 1970s and had a lot of fun with it. It was a bit flimsy and fell apart so, I put it away and never picked up the black powder bug again...until I saw this piece today in the store and hefted it. Very nice, much heavier than my Lyman was and great fit and finish...indeed a Colt!
    So, I feel the bug biting, especially during the ammo shortage. How do I evaluate this thing? The price on it is $850 with "Firm" written on the sign (has box and papers). I thought I had read where there were several runs of these guns by Colt and some generations were good and some less. So:

    1) What do I look for? Is there a year to stay away from?
    2) Is the price right? Looks unfired. I would purchase to shoot.
     
  2. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    Is it new-in-box? If so it's worth the $850. But would you want to shoot it? It
    would be more of a collector piece, and shooting it would lower the value.

    If you want to get back into black powder shooting, the 1860 is one of the
    models that is made by several manufacturers. Get a steel frame version.

    My current personal favorite BP revolver is a 36 cal. 1861 Navy. Has the balance
    of the '51 Navy, with the mechanical improvements of the 1860 Army.
     

  3. hiwall

    hiwall Active Member

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    They were not made by Colt. I think $850 is way to high. I recently seen one NIB sell for $500.
     
  4. cgersty

    cgersty New Member

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    I have one that's made by pietta, it shoots fairly well and is fun to shoot, I'm getting ready to order an 1858 Remington with the removable cylinder for my collection.

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  5. F4U

    F4U Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Not sure who made mine off of the top of my head, but it shoot shoots 12" high at 25 yards. Exactly 12 inches directly above the center of the target. My Remington is much more accurate.
     
  6. towboater

    towboater Active Member

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    Ya should be able to pick up a used 1860 Colt for around $400 - $500

    Piettas sell for around $200
    Uberti's are a little more.
     
  7. Hightide

    Hightide New Member

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    Thanks Towboater, As I said, I have been out of it for awhile and have no idea what the leading brands are. That Colt I handled looked, fit and finished so much better than the Lyman I had 35 years ago, that I almost forked out the money. I needed the advice on prices.
     
  8. Hawg

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    The second gen does not have the signature on the backstrap. These were assembled and finished by Colt from parts supplied by Uberti. NIB its worth about 6-700. Third gens do have the signature on the backstrap and were made under license from Colt by the Colt Black Powder Arms Co.(not affiliated with Colt)Colt had no part in the making or finish of these revolvers. Colt did not warranty them and won't letter them like they will with the second gens. That said they are good guns and very well made but I can't see paying a premium for owning one.
     
  9. Hightide

    Hightide New Member

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    Hawg, Towboater, If I want to get back into a blackpowder revolver this year (since there is little cartidge ammo)...what manufacturer or suppliers should I be looking at. The quality on that Colt Blackpowder Arms one seemed to be heads above whatever it is that I see in the case at Bass Pro. I think I may be starting to get the itch to do some muzzleloading again. By the way, my home is only a few mile from the National Shoot at Friendship Indiana, so I do make it over there occasionally. Anyway, I don't want something that will fall apart after a bit of use.
     
  10. Hawg

    Hawg New Member

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    Pietta and Uberti both make pretty decent guns. Pietta is less expensive but has their name plastered on the side of the barrel. IMHO Pietta is the best bang for the buck. Pietta grips are fat with a little proud wood at the top of the grip frame. Some people like them that way but Uberti grips are thinner and fit and feel more like original grips. With C&B revolvers its a good idea to keep a few spare parts jic. A hand and spring(hands do require fitting)a bolt and a bolt/trigger spring. Those are the most problematical parts. Personally I've only replaced one hand and that was in a gun that was 40 years old but I have heard stories. Nipples are a crap shoot. Most revolvers are happy with Remington #10 caps but some prefer #11. Caps aren't always a uniform size either and can vary from lot to lot.
     
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  11. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    If you want to shoot black powder the Ruger Old Army is the way to go. These are modern strong firearms with fine sights. These guns can handle heavy conical or ball loads. Ruger designed these from the Rogers & Spencer revolvers of the 1860s.
    If you want a gun that resembles the Civil War era the 1858 Remington is worth looking at.:)
     

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  12. Hawg

    Hawg New Member

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    Ruger used the blackhawk design and the loading system from the R&S. For those of us that history means something to the Ruger has no place.
     
  13. yazul42

    yazul42 Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I have a Pietta 1860 Army, a Uberti Third Model Dragoon and a Uberti 1849 Pocket Model and they all shoot pretty well, the Ubertis took less work to find the right load. I filed the hammer notch deeper which helped the one revolver that also shot very high and added a few grains to the powder charge and POA and POI are pretty close now. Get the proper round ball molds and run your own lead which can also help bring costs down,, they are dirty but fun, thinking about a '58 Remington or perhaps a brace of Walkers to emulate Josy Wales.

    Good shooting,
    Jeff