Collection opinions

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by GeneralPatton, Feb 16, 2013.

  1. GeneralPatton

    GeneralPatton New Member

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    I have been asked to liquidate a collection for a friend. His grandfather passed away recently and left his collection to my buddies dad who just wants to let them go. Thought I'd post here and ask yall's opinions on the stuff he has.
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    Basically, what we have in the picture above is as follows in no particular order:

    1) Mossburg 835 Ulti-Mag 12ga pump. 24" AccuMag Choke barrel and 24" rifled bore barrel

    2) Remington 870 Express Magnum 12ga pump 28" and 21" barrels

    3)Remington 870 Express .410 pump 25" barrel

    4) Winchester 1200 12ga Semi-Auto 29" barrel

    5) Riverside Arms Single Shot 12ga 30" barrel

    5) Remington 550-1 .22 (Short, Long, Long Rifle) with a Weaver C6 Optic mounted with a Weaver 22 Tip-off mount

    6) InterArms .22 ATD LR Has a slot in the stock for loading

    7) Remington GameMaster 760 30-06 Springfield pump

    8) H&R model 732 .32 revolver

    9) Navy Arms Company Ridgefield NJ - Italy percussion cap revolver. Octagonal barrel black powder revolver (This appears to be a reproduction)

    10) Thompson Center Arms .50cal Thunder Hawk Shadow Black Powder rifle
    (says it also uses pyrodex which I have no idea what that is)

    11) 1888 Mauser Sporter It's difficult to define this, as it was a "project" gun and since the owner has passed away, little info is available.

    Anyway, just wondering if anyone has opinions on these and perhaps some real world values.
     
  2. Virginian

    Virginian Active Member

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    Go look at completed auctions on GunBroker. That will give you the best real world estimate of what they are going for.
     

  3. GeneralPatton

    GeneralPatton New Member

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    I've done that already. The only issue I have with that is that bid shilling is rampant on GB and that skews the validity of the final values making it difficult to determine what is real and what isn't.
     
  4. Gonzilla

    Gonzilla New Member

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    Look up each gun individually to get an idea of the value. Ditto w GunsAmerica take the median value. You can sell the whole load at one time w the local gun shops but they will only give you 50 cents on the dollar. Convienence is expensive n honest men are hard to find.

    As you've probably surmised, there are no high dollar value items there.

    I wish you the best of luck.

    PS: Be careful about placing ads in newspapers. Thieves may target your house - weapons sell well on the black market.
     
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  5. GeneralPatton

    GeneralPatton New Member

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    I don't advertise anything to my home. I typically only communicate via email and I meet at the local range. I have no time restriction on selling them, so I'm gonna do private sales to maximize returns. I don'think there is anything high dollar, but I've had some estimate the Mauser could be in the $1000 range, and the Black Powder pistol is from 1962 and appears to have been during a time when Gregorelli & Uberti Company was in business (which was only 4 years, 1959-1962) and is a rare find. Its said those reproduction 1858 New Navy Pistols were hand assembled and less than 3000 were made. I'm still researching that as I know absolutely nothing about black power. Other than those two, I see nothing worth more than $500 for any of them.
     
  6. Gonzilla

    Gonzilla New Member

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    Time, patience and research are your friends. Far too many take the expedient route for quick cash.

    Uberti is a good name but still just a reproduction & yet - one mans repro may be another mans treasure for a myriad of reasons. (wish I had the holster - I'm too cheap to buy a new one - I have ROA but rarely shoot it - PIA to clean.)

    Mauser - I am probably wrong but It looks like it was sporterized which usually buggers the value. Hope it's a special model which completes someone's collection.
     
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  7. GeneralPatton

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    The Mauser Sportster, so I've read, was actually used back in the day for hunting purposes. This one has some interesting addons, I had a local gunsmith look at it and he said it has a good deal of hand engraving done, likely from the late 1800's or very early 1900's. They made them like that back in the day. Of course, I'm only just into preliminary research and have a long way to go. I read something last night about a Gewher or something like that, the sportster version produced for hunters and rich folks back then.
     
  8. GeneralPatton

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    I sold the Remington 550-1 and the Winchester 1200 on the first full day I had them posted. I've had pretty good interest in a couple of the others as well. I think as Tax checks roll in, interest will rise even more given the whole firearms climate and all. I still find it odd that no one gives the ole street sweeper the respect it deserves.
     
  9. GeneralPatton

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    Oddly enough, I've had emails on just about every gun in that picture, with the exception of the Mossberg 835. Is the 835 a less desirable shotgun?
     
  10. GeneralPatton

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    Well, oddly enough after posting that I got an email from a guy I'm meeting to sell the Mossburg and the little H&R .32 revolver tomorrow morning.
     
  11. Gonzilla

    Gonzilla New Member

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    Your a good friend. Breaks my heart when I see people get 50 cent on the dollar at gun stores where I can't even find a parking space. Sellers market & 4 more years of Obama & Pelosi - not likely to change. Ammo shortage just fuels the fire.
     
  12. GeneralPatton

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    So it worked out this morning. Sold the Moss 835 and the H&R revolver.

    Gonzilla, I can't stand to see people sell collections to scumbag dealers who pay them 50% or less of what the items are worth only to turn around and list them for 20% more than they are worth. It's kinda nice to see what kinda folks are out buying these days. Most of what I've sold so far has been to older gentlemen, say mid 50's or older. But they get a nice well cared for guns, and the seller gets a fair shake on the price. Everyone wins.
     
  13. Gonzilla

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    I hear ya but I would like to see the guns go to people who will actually use them ! Age is unimportant to me, well - I'd like to think I'd drop my price a wee bit for two cases:

    1. Young lads first gun - It's always a special occasion.

    2. Old gents last hunt - also a special event.

    Was reading Thomas Merton last night, he said the city hasn't changed since the time of the Desert Fathers (4th Century) every man for himself. Charity is a virtue I've read about but rarely see in practice.

    Kinda like "Mother Nature," given half a chance, she will :p;):D:eek: Ya ! (I would normally say every single time but I just saw a "special needs" child who got lost in the woods of Maine and was found 12 miles from house OK by game wardens on TV. Always an exception to the rule.)
     
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