Cold Blueing

Discussion in 'Engraving & Refinishing' started by sharpshooter1997, Jan 6, 2013.

  1. sharpshooter1997

    sharpshooter1997 New Member

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    Im going to blue my 1950's Mossberg 151k. I need some suggestions on a good quality blueing kit.
     
  2. cgersty

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    I like the perma blue kits by birchwood Casey, I did a mossy 500 with their stuff and it was easy and turned out great. I used the liquid not the paste.
     

  3. sharpshooter1997

    sharpshooter1997 New Member

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    What method did you use to heat your barrel.
     
  4. cgersty

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    It's a cold blue there I s no heat needed, just wipe on, let sit 45-60 seconds and rinse off with cold water, dry and repeat if finish isn't dark enough, blend together with steel wool then oil lightly and let cure for 25 hours and done.
     
  5. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    MOST cold blues will do better on WARM steel than cold.

    Polish the barrel really good- degrease- warm with a blow dryer, do not touch with bare hands. I use a new toothbrush to apply bluing. BlueWonder does well, as do the Birchwood Casey products. I also keep a bottle of Van's 44-40 because it works great on SOME steels.
     
  6. BillDeShivs

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    Cold blue doesn't work well for complete refinishes. It can promote rust, it stinks, and it offers no protection.
    Paint your gun instead.
     
  7. cgersty

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    I really wanted to parkerize it, I took my time, degreased it, sanded all machine marks out of the steel, degreased again, used perma blue, then applied the barricade stuff to seal it, assembled gun, and lightly wiped down with oil, this gun sees the duck blind quite frequently and wiping it down with oil rag when finished and its held up without rusting for 2 waterfowl seasons so far, I had really good luck with it.
     
  8. cottontop

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    I have used Birchwood Casey Perma Blue on a couple of my sporter barrels. They turned out great. The trick is to follow the directions to a T. After smoothing out the final coat with steel wool, the secret is to really put the gun oil to it. I used the spray Rem-Oil. Spray it on, rub it in w/ a clean cloth and spray it some more and just let it set. Spray it again a couple of times a day for 2 days. Then lightly wipe it again and you are done. I got a pretty nice even deep blue.
    cottontop
     
  9. sputnik1988

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    I used birchwood casey cold blue on my SKS, it looks good but wears easily, which is actually a plus for me. I love the look of a used firearm.
     
  10. BillDeShivs

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    All the cold blues wear easily.
    There is always someone who thinks they have found the magic formula for applying it. And, they think it looks great-but any gun pro can tell a gun has been cold blued very easily. And it's still stinky, copper sulphate, easy wearing, rust-enhancing cold blue.
     
  11. sharpshooter1997

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    What is the cheapest way to remove the old blueing
     
  12. cgersty

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    The birchwood kit comes with blueing remover, and the degreaser.
     
  13. c3shooter

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    If you do not have it in a kit, bluing can be removed with bluing remover- or phosphoric acid. If you do not have a complete chem lab that you can walk down and snag an ounce or two- check your local hardware store for a product called Naval Jelly.

    Or loan the gun to your brother-in-law. It will come back missing half the bluing.
     
  14. pnolans

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    I unintentionally removed the bluing on my Ruger P95. What I did was put it through my handy-dandy Lyman Ultrasonic cleaner with a little bit of Dawn as the cleaning agent.

    It removed the bluing just fine.

    :eek:
     
  15. cottontop

    cottontop Guest

    cold blue


    I guess I must be that "always someone." So what is a "gun pro?" A gunsmith, a medal winning target shooter, a gun store salesman? Maybe it is just someone who has been around guns all his life and has been shooting and reloading for around 50 years or so? If the later is so, then I qualify. I have not found some "magic formula." I only followed the directions. BTW, my local "gun pro," an experienced gunsmith, told me about really oiling the the project. Granted it is not a $200 professional hot tank bluing job, but it ain't bad. In fact, I was a little skeptical about using the cold blue at first, but now I am glad I used it. Spending $8.00 instead of $200 or more to blue the barrel of a $400 rifle makes a lot of sense to me. I will just be sure no "gun pros" see it. BTW, the guns have no smell at all other than a gun oil smell.
    cottontop
     
  16. cgersty

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    I agree with you cotton.
     
  17. akers06

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    I cold blued my old bolt action mossburg 20 gauge 15 years ago because when I.bought it it had a pink barrel bc somebody got the bright idea to paint it lol... I stripped all the paint off of it then followed the directions and after many hours in the woods it final starting to turn kind of a brown color so it's about time to do it again
     
  18. srtolly1

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    I've used the Birchwood Casey products and they work well. Oxpho blue works well too. I only use the 44-40 for touch ups because it doesn't seem to have even color on larger areas. I've cold blued several shotguns, handguns and rifles by following directions and no problems. I did find that once the desired color is achieved it helps to soak the parts in WD-40 for a day or two then clean as normal.
     
  19. HOSSFLY

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    Agree on all that ;)
    Do NOT expect a good look after just 1 or 2 applications!!
    Keep at it---
    No it doesn't wear well :(
    I have a small part time gunsmith in my area that does most handguns for $125 - Might check on someone like that in your area- If you figure materials & time its money well spent if you really want a good blue job ;)
     
  20. sharpshooter1997

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    I stripped my barrel and I think I'm just going to buy the BC cold blueing. Not the kit. I know I need degreeser and cotton swabs but what else do I need and what is the process of apllying it?

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