Found a goldmine if you don't mind waiting a couple months or shooting reloads. Trust me, they're just as good as any wwb ammo I've shot before. And cheaper than I've ever seen it. 380acp $315 9mm $225 38spl $280 40 S&W $280 45acp $340 .223 $600 That's per 1000. The only way to order. I'm planning on putting in an order every 2 weeks or so to keep the ammunition coming in. Those who are too far away, they do not ship. Pick up and go in to pay only. I'll spill the details when I see some replys of interest.