Cleaning accessories for short stroke piston driven ar 15?

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by Armed-Citizen, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. Armed-Citizen

    Armed-Citizen New Member

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    im soon to purchase my ar15 that is short stroke piston driven and im curious if different cleaning tools are needed compared to a D.I. ar15? any help is greatly appreciated
     
  2. Quentin

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    Don't they say those things never get dirty? :D

    Seriously, most of the cleaning tools for the standard AR should work. Of course you'll want something to clean the piston and cylinder area but not hard to find.
     

  3. Armed-Citizen

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    ok i see what you mean. yes the do get dirty but not in the same areas as a D.I. ar. shortstroke gas piston ars get most of its dirtiness in the gas block. but thank you. btw, can you tell me if STAG is a decent ar maker?
     
  4. goretro77

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    Just like an AK, a Gas piston AR will get dirty in the piston area, periodically take the piston out and simple cleaning solvents to get the carbon off will do. Actually its very easy to clean. You can use CLP, or Hoppe's Elite cleaner or electric parts cleaner...spray it on, wipe off the piston. Some people also spray some on a q tip and clean the inside of the piston's cylinder.

    Many great proven designs have run off the piston design like the M14, AK just to name a few.
     
  5. Armed-Citizen

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    was thinking of getting clp. i was told before its decent for cleaning..thanks for the feedback
     
  6. Quentin

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    The last part is a loaded question but I'll say Stag is middle of the road, you can do better for about the same money as mentioned in your other thread.
     
  7. mjkeat

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    Like Q said, middle of the road, like mentioned in your other thread.

    There are better cleaning solutions/lubes than CLP
     
  8. Armed-Citizen

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    ok,, i guess for my first ar it would be fine. reason i chose stag was:
    -life time warranty
    -all parts are made in stag arms facility (so no foreign made parts)
    compared to other companies, i liked these features and for $1100 you get a gas piston system. not too bad
     
  9. mjkeat

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    We should combine your 2 threads as they seem to be mirroring each other.

    I have a LWRC much higher quality than the Stag and I still could have spent my money better by going BCM, Colt, LMT, or Daniel Defense.

    Not too bad? Well, take a look at the responses you're getting. Take what has been said and use it to make a better decision. It's your deal do what you want but why create a thread if you're not willing to listen to opposing viewpoints? We have nothing to gain or loose.
     
  10. AgentTikki

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    Sounds like you've made up your mind! Go for it! Don't forget to post up lotsa pics!

    Get a bore snake, some lube, nylon rod with a bore brush, baby toothbrushes (used ones are cool) for the chamber, q-tips, rags and some clp or other solvent. That's all you need.
     
  11. Armed-Citizen

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    thinking about it, ill check lwrc again and bcm,colt or lmt and maybe go for a D.i. ....reason being, d.i.s are more common and if i need to replace a part, they're interchangeable unlike gas piston, some of them can only take piecesfrom their maker...i did check lmt and saw the defender standard model 16 by lmt. looks good would you recomend any of their rifles specifically.
    i apologize if i sounded ignorant to peoples responses ...
     
  12. AgentTikki

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    What do you intend to use this for?

    What ranges do you plan on shooting?

    What kind of ammo do you think you will be using?

    What is your budget (minus optics mags and ammo)?
     
  13. AgentTikki

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    I'm thinking I should have my last post stickied........
     
  14. Quentin

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    Ain't that the truth. It would be a great sticky, I wonder how many times a dozen of us have typed that! :D
     
  15. Armed-Citizen

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    "stickied" i dont know what that refers too....im plnning on using it for : target shooting,hunting, self defense
    price range : 0-2500 max (if rifle is worth it)
    type of ammo : Commercial grade
    Range : 0- 250yds
     
  16. Quentin

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    Yep, you're starting to see the light. One of the biggest concerns about piston ARs is that you could be left with an orphan down the road. No doubt there will be a shakeout of competing designs and some manufacturers will drop support for a losing design to go with a winner. Why choose now to enter that mess for so little to no gain.
     
  17. Quentin

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    Stickys, or stickies if you like, are at the top of the forum, they're important threads stuck up there for people to read. Hint, hint! :D

    Definitely read AgentTikki's AR Primer. Read it again and again until it starts making sense, it's that important and will help you make good decisions. It's extremely well written, has almost all the important info you need yet is very clear and succinct.

    That's a wide budget you've got there. I'd tighten it up, $1000 buys are very nice basic AR like a BCM or Colt that will be reliable with most ammo. DI of course. Upgrades can push you quickly to twice that price if you're looking at quality rails and optics.
     
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  18. Armed-Citizen

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    i'd spend up to 2500 max if the rifles worth it. 1000 range is ideal and more reasonable price. seeing how D.i has been here longer that gas piston in ar platform, i might actually go for it. il check out bcm and colt see what i do, true i can get a good rifle from them at this price compared to mid tier stag gas piston at this price...thank you
     
  19. AgentTikki

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    You have a very generous budget.

    In no particular order any of these are great rifles:

    Knights Armaments
    LaRue
    Noveske
    BCM
    Daniel Defence
    LMT
    RAINER ARMS
    POF
    Colt

    price ranges from about $1000 to $2000+

    any 14.5 or 16" will be more than adequate for the ranges you will be shooting, except for the 0 yards...... :D

    Just a note, I'd rater have $1000 Ar with an Aimpoint and mount than a $1700 without one. Just a personal preference.
     
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