Clean Reliable Powder for 9mm Needed

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Thebiker, Jun 7, 2011.

  1. Thebiker

    Thebiker New Member

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    I have been reloading for 20+ years, primarily revolver and shotgun. I have also reloaded 45ACP & 9mm in the past using Unique, but didn't care for it. It functioned fine but was dirty (MHO).

    Due to the powder shortage we had after the current administration took office, I bought what was available at the time. Now that I'm back to reloading 9mm I have found that the SR 4756 that I have in stock works fine for my .357, 44SP & Mag doesn't get it done for my 9mm.

    The problem I'm running into is stovepipes using SR4756 (WSP primers) even at max charges (5.2 gr with 115gr RN).

    So, I'm not looking for anyone to commit themselves to a specific powder charge (in this age "liability" sucks) but just a clean powder (cleaner than Unique) that gets the job done.

    The problem is not the pistol. I'm using a Sig P239 with several thousand rounds through it and a P226 that I have close to a thousand rounds on. No problems except with my reloads.

    I have done a fair amount of trouble shooting on this problem: checked the rounds for sizing with a case gauge, checked C.O.L. and length of the finished rounds. Used reference weights to make sure the scale is properly calibrated and checked that the powder measure is consistent.

    I have come to the conclusion that the powder just is not suitable for this application.

    So, I would welcome a clean, reliable powder recommedation for 9mm Luger since I don't want to just start randomly buying powder.

    Thanks for any help offered.
     
  2. anm2_man

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    Since your in the greater Phoenix area, I guess you could come and sue me anytime.

    But I have been using Tightgroup for several years and its a pretty clean powder and has little heat issues ( I live here also).

    My loads use Berrys 115grn plated projectiles. I use Winchester small pistol primers. My load of Tightgroup is 4.1grns and I get 1229 FPS with this load. Now I shoot most of these thru my SUBGUN (S&W 76), but I get the same results from my glock 19.

    So I hope this helps you.
     

  3. jpattersonnh

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  4. MidnightExpress

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    the last 9mm and 45ACP reloads I shot were loaded with Hodgdon Clays, no
    cycling issues and was cleaner than the bulk rounds I would shoot from
    Remington and Winchester

    the Alliant Blue Dot was the same, clean and no cycling problems
     
  5. Thebiker

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    Anm2_Man,
    Thanks for the offer. I have heard good things about Titegroup from guys that I shot with in NH some years ago. If you've been getting good results, I'll have to give it a try.

    By the way, I am also using the Berry plated 155grn RN for the 9mm. I also use Berry with .38/.357. Nice round and no exposed lead.

    MidnightExpress,
    Appreciate the Hodgdon Clays recommendation. I have some of that in stock. I've used it for my 12 gauge for years. Cleanest powder I ever used. I may build 25 rounds just to see if I get good results.

    Thanks guys.
     
  6. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper New Member

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    A bit pricey, but Vihtavuori N320 feels very soft, burns super clean, cool and gives SD's in the single digits through the chrono with my CZ.
    Just another suggestion
     
  7. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    Another vote for Titegroup here. That is my favorite pistol powder hands down.
     
  8. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Active Member

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    I haven't tried Titegroup but can personally vouch for Clays being clean and consistent.
     
  9. Davo45

    Davo45 New Member

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    I've used Bullseye and Red Dot as well as Accurate #5 with good results.
     
  10. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    The newer formulation of Red Dot is pretty darn clean. Cost effective and available almost everywhere reloading supplies are sold. I got some the other day and found that the price has actually gone DOWN almost $1/lb!!
     
  11. ktmboyz

    ktmboyz New Member

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    I have also had great results with titegroup. I am not very experienced in reloading yet but seems to be working ok and clean.
     
  12. Thebiker

    Thebiker New Member

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    Awesome guys, I knew I could count on good responses.

    I'll give Clays a try since I have it in stock and see how it goes.

    Thanks
     
  13. Thebiker

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    Once again, thanks for the quick responses to my powder questions/problem.

    Over the weekend, I sat down in front of my Rock Chucker and did 25 rounds with the Clays that I had in stock. Yesterday I went to the range and put 10 through the P239 and 15 through the P226, flawless operation and the clean that I love in my 12 ga Red Label!

    Now that I know the round works for me, I'll set up my Dillon Square Deal and have at it.

    Problem solved, that's why I love this forum; you always get an answer, even if it is just a smart a** reply, but generally the right answer is there.:D

    Thanks.
     
  14. Desdenova

    Desdenova New Member

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    I've had good results with Winchester 231

    Just trying to find the right load. Last test was 4.2gr for 115gr Plated HP. Might have my load!
     
  15. fishdude

    fishdude New Member

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    I switched from Bullseye to WST and found WST to be "cleaner".
     
  16. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    I've been happy with Universal in my 45 and 38 loads. It's clean and consistant but it tends to like a good firm crimp. I never actually tried it in a 9mm but I had plans to before I sold my last 9.
     
  17. glenn923

    glenn923 New Member

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    I use Bullseye for 9mm, 45ACP, and 380ACP all with good results. Blue Dot is a slow burning powder and you need a real tight crimp.
     
  18. dgray64

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    Titegroup and W-231 are both great, though you use a little less Titegroup so it loads a few more per pound.

    Dave