Class 3 tax stamp

Discussion in 'NFA/Class 3 & FFL Discussion' started by gumby, Mar 22, 2010.

  1. gumby

    gumby New Member

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    My question is do I have to have a FFL to own a fully automatic weapon or do I just have to get a Tax Stamp from NFA? The other question is does anyone have the website or contact number to the NFA?
     
  2. TheOldMan

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    Couple of things:

    1, Go to the front and introduce yourself and share some info.
    2, You don't mention what state you live in to see if it's even legal in your state to own a fully automatic weapon

    To answer your question though.. If your state allows you to own a full auto weapon, you do NOT have to be an FFL to own it. You have to locate a dealer who has a CLASS 3 license to deal in automatic weapons and process the paperwork through them. There will be a fee of, I think it's $200, for the tag and after you wait a bit,weeks I'm told, you'll have your weapon.

    Hope that helps ya out and welcome :)
     

  3. gumby

    gumby New Member

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    Sorry that I did not introduce my self. I am new and did not know. I live in Missouri and thank you for the info.
     
  4. willfully armed

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    In MO, you are allowed class 3.

    You actualy have to purchase the item before you file for your tax stamp. The serial nu,mber must be included on your paperwork. Then you send your $200, and your forms to the NFA division of the ATF, and WAIT!

    Ive heard waits are down to 2.5-3 months. Im at 2 months right now.
     
  5. Dillinger

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    Let's not forget that a fully legal, fully automatic weapon is going to run in excess of $6000 for a really old one.

    New weapons could cost you $15K-$20K.

    Welcome to the very expensive world of Class 3 weapons... LOL

    JD

    PS - JD does not own a Class III weapon because he can't afford one. :eek::(
     
  6. TheOldMan

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    Although these weapons are on a scale of 1k+ on coolness, I just cannot wrap my head around spending that kinda cash just to go bang really really fast. It's not just the expense of the weapon itself that gets me it's the cost of ammo too.. You can drop a lot of cash in a very very short amount of time.

    IMO, if you want a full auto fix, try going to Knob Creek Gun range out in Ky. Twice a year they have their full auto shooting open house.. I hear it's an awesome weekend... They're listed on the internet..
     
  7. KingTiger

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    You can get into the game for about $3K, I bought a NIB SWD M11/9 two years ago for $3200.

    The semi-annual North Georgia Machine Gun Melee is this Saturday. They'll have two cars & plenty of tannerite. There will be a suppressed only session at Noon, with silencer demos. Nothing quite beats doing a suppressed, full-auto mag dump with subsonic ammo. :)

    Come on out & see what you've been missing and get some trigger time.

    **2010 Spring MACHINEGUN Melee** - Georgia Outdoor News Forum
     
  8. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Remember, there is no such agency as NFA. NFA is the National Firearms Act of 1934. It is the law that set up high (for the day) taxes on Machineguns and other extraordinary firearms. The $200 tax for the transfer was originally the MSRP of a Thompson 1928 model SMG. Today, the sales tax on a good machinegun is is way more than that.

    18" bbl 26" overall is the Federal (and Texas) standard for shotguns. Less than that and you are looking at a $200 transfer or 10 years in the Club Fed.

    As long as you are not in Michigan, Kali, NY or NJ. you should be fine. Of course any legal advise you get here is worth every penny of what you paid for it. Check your local and State laws to get the real skinny.
     
  9. MoHawk

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    And the thread killer strikes again
     
  10. gumby

    gumby New Member

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    So would you have a website of where I could find the forms or the information. have looked on the ATF website and cannot find anything about it.
     
  11. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    You know me...Robo's the name, thread killing's the game.

    http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-4.pdf

    For those that don't know, you can search a pdf file by entering control F. This opens a "find box" that enables you to quickly search. You can print out this file so you have a nice reference book.
     
  12. TheOldMan

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    Dang it!! I've gotta work this Saturday. I wasn't even aware we had anything like this in Ga. thanks for the heads up..

    How often does this go off? I've got others interested in going to this..
     
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  13. KingTiger

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    T.O.M. - They happen twice a year. The next one will be in November, usually the later half of the month. Let me know if you have any questions.
     
  14. sheriffoconee

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    I own 7 silencers.....nothing to it. IF YOUR STATE ALLOWS THE PURCHASE, the best thing you can do is find a GREAT Class 3 dealer and get them to handle the paperwork for you.
    If your Chief Law Enforcement Officer won't sign off (yes, I signed off on my own before I formed a trust....) then the dealer can help advise you on forming a trust that will own the NFA item, or you can form a LLC in your State that will own the NFA item....
    It takes a LONNNNNG wait, patience and a bit of money, but their isn't any mystery to it...
     
  15. TheOldMan

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    Thank you .. I'll plan to attend the next one.
     
  16. willfully armed

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    That may be, but your paperwork goes to the ATF- NFA division. Says so right on the forms.
     
  17. TheOldMan

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    Keyword "Division". Seperate office within the BATF not a seperate Agency.:)
     
  18. IMAPEOPLEPERSON

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    The oldman hit the nail on the head, If you go to "the creek" ( Knob Creek ) you can pretty much shoot anything you want, for a small fee of course. Get your fix that way and it usually winds you up buying your own, then that XXX amount of dollars don't seem so bad, you can think of it like an ira fund, or a 401K, but alot more fun. If you go to Knob Creek give me a shout, i have been going twice a year except that spring shoot that got canceled, any way twice a year every year and have enjoyed it every time, i would be more than happy to show you around, Next shoot Oct 8,9,10 2010. Bring a tent and camp there onsite, it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.