Chokes and barrels - Remington 870

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by 2ndAmendmentFreedom, Apr 21, 2012.

  1. 2ndAmendmentFreedom

    2ndAmendmentFreedom New Member

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    Hey everyone,
    I'm transferring my Remington 870 Tactical on Monday and it has a Rem Choke barrel and it comes with some sort of flash hider looking thing screwed in, they say it's a choke but I don't think it does any constriction:
    http://www.remington.com/products/accessories/gun-parts/choke-tubes/remington-tac-choke-tube.aspx

    What are the best choke manufacturers? I've been looking at Carlsons (affordable) and Muller (more expensive).

    Also how bad is the accuracy when shooting slugs through a non-rifled barrel? I understand the physics behind it but I've never experimented with it in real life.

    Thanks :)
     
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  2. Buckethead47

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    The choke that probably is on it is their breecher choke. Which is cylinder bore. Meaning it matches the size of the barrel it's self. now the question is what are you going to shoot in terms of ammo and how tight of a pattern. Also with slugs. You can go as tight modified choke. I shoot best with modify choke. Which you can use the cylinder bore or improved cylinder.
     
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  3. 2ndAmendmentFreedom

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    Ya I realized it was nothing more than a tacticooled cylinder choke (looks cool though :))
    I still have to pattern the shotgun, I bought a few different brands of 9 pellet buckshots. My goal is obviously to get the tightest pattern possible, I won't really see a difference at the range between different chokes but I'm thinking in the future when I take the shotgun out for some longer distance shooting. How inaccurately would a smooth bore shoot a slug?
     
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  4. akers06

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    U should at least be able to shoot a 6" group at 100 and probably a lot tighter than that
     
  5. Buckethead47

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    I shoot 4" patterns with my modified choke (on a good day) at 50 yards. you just just need to find the slugs that work well with your gun and the choke they shoot best with. My problem is after a box of shells at the range and I start to flinch. Thats what causes my pattern to start to open. by shell #10 it will take me around a minute to get the round down range. :eek:
     
  6. Buckethead47

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    Also some food for thought. Unless you are hunting farms, sighting you shotgun in at 100 yards may be a bit much. I go down to crab orchard by carbondale. And even though there are some places where it is possible to take that long of a shot, I found that wooded areas you are lucky to get a clear shot 50 yards deep.
     
  7. akers06

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    Most of my land is wooded and I killed a lot of deer around 100 I just killed one last year that I ranged at 132 yards and I smoked with my smooth bore benelli nova....off a rest using winchester super x slugs using a modified choke I could shoot 3" groups all day long....my dad has an old 870 wingmaster with a smooth 18 1/2 slug barrel that with open sights with shoot 4" groups I believe if it had a scope and you really got down to the nutty gritty it would touch holes a 100.....I sight my guns in for 100 and they usually shoot about 2" high at 50.
     
  8. Buckethead47

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    It depends on the woods. All my spots are heavy. I like being sighted in at 50. when I have the chance to take longer or shorter shots I can compensate easily. The super x slugs is what my 870 loves. What length shell do you use? I don't use a scope, and never really used open sights. but I'm a big fan of red dots as thats what my grandpa put on the 20 gauge he gave me when I was learning how to hunt. I'm not sure if I like the red dot I have now. It's 2x and it doesn't have the field of view a non magnified dot has.
     
  9. akers06

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    I use the 2 3/4" I've tried the 3" but I just can't get the grouping that the shorter shells get plus they're cheaper and don't kick as hard lol....I sold my nova and bought a STOEGER m3500 I haven't tried it with slugs yet. If I can find a fully rifled barrel for my wifes 20ga 870 I will probably hunt with it this year.....my STOEGER and the 870 20ga both have red dots right now for turkey season but come deer season they will have scopes....I like red dots but that could be the reason why you aren't shooting a tight group bc it my have a large MOA so the dot may be covering a big area and its hard to precisely shoot with the dot covering 3-4 inches
     
  10. Buckethead47

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    Yeah it's just what I am used to. I use 3 inch but I may try the 2 3/4 see if I can get better. I had the same grouping with the 20 4 to 6 inch at 50 yards. With the 20 the grouping didn't matter my deer went down with a shot threw the heart and lungs. If I had the ability to get the 20 ga. From my grandpa I would use that for deer. But my younger cousins use it now. The 20 is a combo came with a smooth and riffled barrel. A 20 is just as affective as a 12 on deer. I have yet to hunt with my 12 yet.

    So back to the op. There are a lot of factors in accuracy. Of a gun. You got to find what works for you and your gun.
     
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  11. akers06

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    I agree I've also had federal slugs shoot pretty good
     
  12. Buckethead47

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    I picked winchester because I liked the way the 20 shot with them. they worked well for me so why change?
     
  13. 2ndAmendmentFreedom

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    Ok that's interesting, i was reading online that a bunch of people were saying that shooting slugs through a smooth bore barrel would be extremely inaccurate. Good to know they didn't know what they're talking about. 50 to 100 yards is remarkable through a shotgun, i can't wait until I have a deeper place to shoot in. Regarding range, how does 12ga compare to 20ga when using shells in a smooth bore barrel?
     
  14. akers06

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    The 20ga will shoot more accurate but a 12 has more knockdown power but either will work fine
     
  15. Buckethead47

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    I shot 3 deer with a 20 gauge. At 50 yards the slug had enough energy to embed into the tee behind him. My cousin last season with the same 20 took one at 70 yards. I heard the same thing too, not accurate. From experience it's not as bad as I've heard. I will still recommend a rifled barrel. My slugs don't go all over the place but when they do it's mostly because I flinch.
     
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  16. akers06

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    They still have plenty of knock down power just noT AS much as a 12 is all I was saying is rather deer hunt with a 20 I've killed a lot of deer with a 20ga over the years lol
     
  17. cottontop

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    Briley makes the best choke tubes. Expensive? yes, but they are worth it.
    cottontop
     
  18. akers06

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    Briley makes good tubes but I don't think you can say any one brand is the best
     
  19. Buckethead47

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    What makes a choke tube better?
     
  20. akers06

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    Quality how good they are machined...it helps shoot a more even pattern when shooting regular shotgun shells