China doesn't like our Second Amendment

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by bkt, May 30, 2012.

  1. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    China condemns U.S. gun ownership as human rights violation

    “The United States prioritizes the right to keep and bear arms over the protection of citizens' lives and personal security and exercises lax firearm possession control, causing rampant gun ownership,” the report claims. “The U.S. people hold between 35 percent and 50 percent of the world' s civilian-owned guns, with every 100 people having 90 guns [and] 47 percent of American adults reported that they had a gun.”

    The conclusion that gun bans will result in enhanced protection of lives and personal security flies in the face of both the American and Chinese experience. Predictably, the report presents many of the same cherry-picked arguments used by “leading” U.S. and international “gun control” organizations that totally ignore the protective benefits of arms in private hands.
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    China is cordially invited to collectively KMA.
     
  2. billt

    billt New Member

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    What ever China doesn't like about this nation, or what we are doing as a people, should be reason enough to not only keep doing it, but increase it proportionally to much higher levels. The same can be said about the UN. The more pissed off these people are, the better I like it.
     

  3. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    Then let them come along with this administration and others of similar ilk and try to take it away from the most abused, hard-working, sacrificing, compassionate nation of people in the world. Please! We are just darn weary and tired of any and all political threats in this country and in the world against us.;)
     
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  4. colmustard

    colmustard New Member

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    A ticked off commie makes a happy American! So someone pass a box of rounds and lets head to the range and enjoy a sport so little have freedom to enjoy. Also could this be that the very fact we are so armed keeps us safe from their commie agenda? Yeah I think so :)
     
  5. opaww

    opaww New Member

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    Fu_k china and them that suck up to them
     
  6. kytowboater

    kytowboater Active Member

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    This I like.
     
  7. vincent

    vincent New Member

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    Note the China....
     

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  8. triggerjob

    triggerjob New Member

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    Did the chinese complain when norinco was selling ak47 s to gun crazed americans.

    Seriously though, this is part of the "fast and furious" conspiracy. China is a member of the security council, so when they ***** to the UN it counts. Also, our governemnt is going to come for our guns and thyre going to use international law to do it.
     
  9. Jim1611

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    Makes me think of the quote that the borrower is a slave to the lender. Maybe China thinks they can dictate to us now that they own so much of our debt.
     
  10. lbwar15

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    So many nations don't like us, it seams to me the only reason there are not foreign tanks on our city streets is bc everyone has a gun.
     
  11. mountainman13

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    Good quote but I can't help but question it. Who really has the power in the situation? The one who lends the money or the one who isn't going to pay it back ?
     
  12. Jim1611

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    Guess that boils down to whether the lender needs to the money back. China seems to have quite a bit so I'd say they could endure us defaulting.
     
  13. billt

    billt New Member

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    That only holds true if the borrower can repossess what the lender borrowed on. Easy to do with a house, pretty hard to "repossess" a country. China is far more unstable at this point than we are financially. No one else has the capacity to absorb all of the cheap crap they send here by the freighter full.
     
  14. Shoobee

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    I checked the sources and the story is correct. The full text of the Chinese NY Consulate comments on gun rights is as follows:

    "The United States prioritizes the right to keep and bear arms over the protection of citizens' lives and personal security and exercises lax firearm possession control, causing rampant gun ownership. The U.S. people hold between 35 percent and 50 percent of the world' s civilian-owned guns, with every 100 people having 90 guns (Online edition of the Foreign Policy, January 9, 2011). According to a Gallup poll in October 2011, 47 percent of American adults reported that they had a gun. That was an increase of six percentage points from a year ago and the highest Gallup had recorded since 1993. Fifty-two percent of middle-aged adults, aged between 35 and 54, reported to own guns, and the adults' gun ownership in the south region was 54 percent (The China Press, October 28, 2011). The New York Times reported on November 14, 2011, that since 1995, more than 3,300 felons and people convicted of domestic violence misdemeanors had regained their gun rights in the state of Washington and of that number, more than 400 had subsequently committed new crimes, including shooting and other felonies (The New York Times, November 14, 2011).

    The United States is the leader among the world's developed countries in gun violence and gun deaths. According to a report of the Foreign Policy on January 9, 2011, over 30,000 Americans die every year from gun violence and another 200,000 Americans are estimated to be injured each year due to guns (Online edition of the Foreign Policy, January 9, 2011). According to statistics released by the U.S. Department of Justice, among the 480,760 robbery cases and 188,380 rape and sexual assault cases in 2010, the rates of victimization involving firearms were 29 percent and 7 percent, respectively (www.bjs.gov). On June 2, 2011, a shooting rampage in Arizona left six people dead and one injured (The China Press, June 3, 2011). In Chicago, more than 10 overnight shooting incidents took place just between the evening of June 3 and the morning of June 4 (Chicago Tribune, June 4, 2011). Another five overnight shootings occurred between August 12 evening and August 13 morning in Chicago. These incidents have caused a number of deaths and injuries (Chicago Tribune, August 13, 2011). Shooting spree cases involving one gunman shooting dead over five people also happened in the states of Michigan, Texas, Ohio, Nevada and Southern California (The New York Times, October 13, 2011; CNN, July 8, 2011; CBS, July 23, 2011;USA Today, August 9, 2011). High incidence of gun-related crimes has long ignited complaints of the U.S. people and they stage multiple protests every year, demanding the government strictly control the private possession of arms. The U.S. government, however, fails to pay due attention to this issue." quoting Examiner.com, 5/29/2012 report of China NY Consulate.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/chi...-rights-violation?CID=examiner_alerts_article

    I am not sure why the Chinese NY Consulate has chosen to focus on this, other than perhaps a covert report back to their home offices that the USA is out of the question for an invasion by China, because the people are too heavily armed, and therefore a militia alone could halt a Chinese advance, even though our regular army and other forces are deployed overseas to Afghanistan and Europe. In other words, although the door is wide open, with the regular troops being mostly gone, the militia potential, which China fully understands, having relied upon Vietnamese militias (VC) and even their own militias during Mao's march, would stop any incursion by Chinese troops.

    Otherwise the Chinese embassy seems to be comparing the USA to Australia where fairly strict and regular requirements govern gun ownership and possession.

    China has been poised to attack or repell the USA for about the past decade, with land based bombers and fighters lined up and always ready to launch, just like the USSR used to be. The difference is in numbers. The Chinese currently have overwhelming numbers, particularly since most US forces are forward-deployed to Afghanistan.

    The only thing that China does not have in comparable numbers to the US is strategic nuclear missiles. They know it would be a gamble to launch their attack of overwhelming conventional bombers and fighters because the USA would likely bomb Beijing into the stone age, just like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, cutting off the head of the Chinese snake.

    So here is the salient question for everyone here --

    - if you see a Chinese pilot on the ground or parachuting from the sky, what are you going to do?
     

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  15. therewolf

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    Oh, is that the UN Security Council which has all the world's top

    arms dealers as it's members? Fishy, fishy...

    I'd say sure, China's pissed that we're all armed. Makes an invasion awfully inconvenient,

    when the defenders have the arms capacity to turn it into a weasel safari...
     
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  16. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    If he ain't delivering Won-Ton soup then he's a goner.
     
  17. Mack Bolan

    Mack Bolan New Member

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    here's an idea

    we should start sending the chinese consulate and embassy copies of our receipts everytime we purchase a new firearm or ammo....ofcourse with any pertinent personal info blacked out....:)

    we'll call it........fan mail.:D
     
  18. elfmdl

    elfmdl New Member

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    China can kiss my ***!!!!
     
  19. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    Agree 100% and China can suck it !!!! Stay in your own country and dont worry about ours
     
  20. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    Hey China, why don't you do the world a favor and shut the hell up. Who do you think you are by telling us that we are violating human rights? Last time I checked, your the one who has a history of human right violations. Why don't we ask Tibet about that?