Cheap Scopes & Red Dots

Discussion in 'Optics & Mounts' started by Mysterion, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. Mysterion

    Mysterion New Member

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    I'm looking or have bought several cheap scopes on Ebay or Amazon recently.

    One is an Aimpoint scope clone for 44 dollars.Zos OEM M2 Red Dot .

    <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270728333631>

    I will have to say its alot better than that blazer piece of crap I bought several years ago, with a huge fuzzy red dot. The dot on this clone is very small and precise. The glass is very clear, also.


    XDOptics 10-40x50 ESF also has some scopes they claim are in use by the chinese military. The optics look very clear and bright, with a Y type of Russian style ranging recticle that looks very high quality for a 150 dollar scope. This has an illuminated recticle as well. I'm very impressed with this scope's advertisement on ebay (lol), and I', going to buy it shortly.

    <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280652333373&ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT>

    The last scope I'm looking at is a BSA 8-32x44 SWF, non illuminated mil dot recticle for 119. It has an attractive military euro design i find compelling enough to putting some clams down to buy it. Im wondering if any of you have seen these items for sale...I will post some links.

    <http://cgi.ebay.com/BSA-8-32X44-SIDEWHL-FOCUS-Mil-Dot-Scope-SWF832X44-30-/260807936740?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb95d4ae4>
     
  2. NOVA

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    Do not waste your money on those cheap scopes - you get what you pay for. They will break first time you shoot or soon afterwards. About the only thing they are good for is AirSoft. Good scopes are built to last.
     

  3. Mysterion

    Mysterion New Member

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    I'm going to have to disagree. Not all of us can afford 1000 dollar leupolds or even more expensive Schmidt & Bender or Karl Zeiss scopes to put on surplus rifles worth less than 500 dollars retail. I have to say that some people have more money than common sense. It isn't your fault. I asked. You answered

    I should have known better.
     
  4. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    What are you putting it on?
     
  5. Mysterion

    Mysterion New Member

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    Look at the first post to this thread. There are links to 1 red dot and two scopes .
     
  6. NOVA

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    First of all, I guess I should have been more specific. I was referring ONLY to the $44.00 Aimpoint clone. I apologize for that. :eek: Personnaly, I have a Vortex StrikeFire bought for about $150.00. It ain't no Aimpoint or Eotec but good enough for my AR15 at the range.

    Second, I feel like you are baiting me with the comment "...more money than common sense..." like I suppose if the shoe fits then I should wear it. Truth is right now I don't have the $14.00 to pay a NRA member discounted range fee!

    Finally, just out of curiosity, assuming you do have common sense, suppose you were very wealthy. Would you buy that Karl Zeiss scope then?
     
  7. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    So, what are you planning to put the sighting device on, as in shotgun, SUR, small caliber target pistol...?

    The larger calibers are generally going to be tougher on the cheap optics. If it is just for a .22 plinker, roll the dice.
     
  8. Rarity

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    Not all high-quality scopes and red-dot sights costs $1,000. Unless you're looking at Trijicon or Leupold. That also doesn't give you an excuse to buy a $60 optic!

    Look at a Burris or a Millet type scope. They are both between the $230 - $400 mark. There are definitely more of them out there. If you enjoy your rifle, then you can at-least give a nice affordable treat you can shoot with. Not a cheap one!
     
  9. Mysterion

    Mysterion New Member

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    Look at the XD Optics Scope again. I would be willing to bet that it is at least equal to or better than a Burris scope in the same price range and on up to 400 dollars. I would be willing to bet that optical clarity is outstanding for this scope, but I wont know until I buy it next month,

    I'm in the process of assembling 4 different Mauser actions.3 of the receivers are 1891 Argentine, and 1 is a GEW 88 rifle action. There isn't any need for ultra strong scopes with any of these receivers, and none of them are going to firing magnum loads with high pressures. I will be re barreling 1 in 7x57, 1 in 6.5 Swedish, and 1 in either 8x57 or 7.65 Argentine. The last action is a complete 1891 7.65 Argentine carbine, so all I need is a stock.

    There wont be any butchering of surplus rifles, since none of them were complete rifles to begin with. All of these rifles are going to be assembled from parts accumulated over a long period of time. It isn't cost effective to restore any of them back into their original state, since the parts are either very expensive or not available.

    Just because it's made by the Chinese doesn't mean its low quality. They have been taking western nations technology and using it very effectively for quite a while now. The quality, features, and clarity of optics are much better than they were ten years ago. The prices of everything is coming down as well. I'm not happy with the loss of manufacturing in the USA, but the net result is cheaper prices and higher quality products at the lower end of the scale. Including the optics I've chosen to try.
     
  10. xiocian

    xiocian New Member

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    ive got an izh axion holographic sight.

    it was like $150 and it functions flawlessly.

    that's just my experience.
     

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  11. NOVA

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    IZH Axion - I googled it and it looks like its made in Russia? do you know where I can buy one?
     
  12. xiocian

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    Yes, it's Russian.

    I have tried to find out more about it but even the Googles doesn't have much to say about it. I purchased mine from the local dealer here in town, so I don't know of any actual distributors of this product. I can take a few more pictures later and show some detail about it.
     
  13. Mysterion

    Mysterion New Member

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    IZH is Izmash. a Russian arms company. If you want to get good Russian Optics, Go look up Kalinka Optics. Alot of their scopes and red dots are back in stock again. Russia had quit exporting their scopes and red dots , but it seems that they are exporting them again.
     
  14. NOVA

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    There, you see? PROOF you know more about scopes than I do! :D
    Thanks for the info.
     
  15. xiocian

    xiocian New Member

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    specs

    some pictures i took of it
     

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  16. m72law

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    i have had a $40.00 sightmark holo sight on my bushy ar-pistol for over 5 years now.it holds zero just as good as my buddys $550.00 eotech;)

    now if i was to drop the ar-pistol from my roof, the 40dollar sight might break like my wallet @ a gunshow;)

    my thoughts on cheap anythings! is a roll of the dice...you might get lucky/you might not? did i get lucky?...i think so,cause after 5years of owning this cheap sight the battery is still going strong!!!:eek:
     
  17. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Rather than buy a $50.00 scope, you would be better served to buy $50.00 in ammo to practice with your iron sites.
     
  18. Mysterion

    Mysterion New Member

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    Red dots are quicker than iron sights.
     
  19. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    And Iron sights don't require batteries, and are not harmed by rain, snow, humidity, dunking, sun spots, EMP or shock.
     
  20. opaww

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    I own 2 Sightmark scopes, A 4-16x and a 10-40x, Of the 2 I like the 4-16x better the 10-40x has too small a viewing area and is crap for close shooting 100 yards or less. Now out to 1000 yards it will do the job and it was under $300.