Cheap Ammunition for the Mind!

Discussion in 'Training & Safety' started by TekGreg, Sep 30, 2011.

  1. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    It has often been said that the best weapon we can have is between our ears, however, most public libraries don't have titles that would help us survive in a SHTF scenario. There are several publishers that have book and DVD titles that are interesting to those wanting to learn shooting tactics (but maybe can't afford the classes right now), urban and wilderness survival, off-road driving, trap building, surviving in harsh environments, tracking animals, etc. Paladin Press is one of these but you'll rarely find their materials available for borrowing.

    The fact is, most people need to read an instructional book once or twice, watch a DVD three or four times and then it sits on the shelf gathering dust. Since I've been on this forum, I've been impressed with the maturity of the members and I'm wondering if the members would be interested in a trading library from which we could all benefit. If we all add books and DVDs we currently own and don't use to the library and get others we want, our knowledge base could grow exponentially!

    I had originally thought of this as a trading source, much like a public library. However, a friend pointed out that the way a public library keeps its assets safe is to track members, collect credit cards as security and fine members for not returning assets, as is popular with government-designed models. This would not only be tedious but would violate some people's sense of anonymity and security that is popular with some. The other model suggested would be similar to a trading book store: Anyone sending in books/DVDs/kits/maps/etc. would be credited 25% of the retail value of the items sent in. All items in inventory could be borrowed/purchased for a deposit/price of 50% of retail value. All items would be shipped Media Mail through the post office to keep costs down and no credit information or deposit needs to be tracked. If you wish to keep the item, you may, because you have essentially purchased it. If not, you return it for credit and get more stuff sent to you!

    Now, for all of the accountants out there, yes, a surplus is being generated. However, I thought it could be formed as a 501(c)(3) corporation and any excess funds could be used to purchase books from places like Paladin Press or similar publishers and added to the library. As a corporation, we could get a corporate discount, a bulk discount, and also take advantage of scratch and dent sales to help stock up a maximum number of titles.

    Does anyone think this would be a good idea and possibly workable? I haven't started the "SHTF Bookstore" and I'm just looking for input! I'm not an ego that has to be fed, so let me know what holes you can really punch in this idea. Also, if it was a website and you could just order and have it arrive at your doorstep, would you use it? Would you mail your stuff in for credit?
     
  2. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    Sounds like a good idea to me and ya id use it but id have to hear a few more peoples imput
     

  3. Lessdragon

    Lessdragon New Member

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    Genious idea completely doable
     
  4. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Thanks, so far! Still looking for anyone that has a downside comment - I'd like to know the pitfalls before pushing forward, if I do.
     
  5. BenLuby

    BenLuby New Member

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    Someone 'borrowing' a hard to find and expensive book and not returning it would be one that would concern me.
     
  6. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    That was my thought but I just thought maybe I was being a bit tough on other peoples honor
     
  7. BigByrd47119

    BigByrd47119 New Member

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    This could be somewhat rectified by only allowing "Supporting Members" to participate in the process.

    In addition, its a honor based system. Anyone that would betray their own honor would no longer be worthy of participating in the system. Its a honor to participate, not a privilege.

    So, anymore news on if/how/when this is moving forward? I'm really interested as well!
     
  8. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    Im not a supporting member....yet, but I do have alot of books that could be very useful. So how would that situation be handled?
     
  9. BigByrd47119

    BigByrd47119 New Member

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    Two ways.

    1.) Since only Supporting Members can participate, you are SOL (unless you become a Supporting Member).

    2.) Anyone can donate to the library, but only Supporting Members can borrow from the library.

    I'm not a Supporting Member either at this point in time, but something like this could be a great way to get other people to become Supporting Members. I know I would if it meant being able to borrow from the library.
     
  10. EagleSix

    EagleSix New Member

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    Tek,

    Is the model above, the model you are currently suggesting be used?

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  11. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Well, this was my first opinion, but as some people say, "Life Happens!" things honestly get damaged or lost, members may move, go into the hospital, long-term care or, God forbid, die, an act of God such as flood, tornado, or earthquake may take their residence or any number of things that they just naturally forget to report the loss of the media. This is one reason that we had originally talked about not doing a straight "Trust" system - it wasn't the members, it was just the attrition of life!

    Another problem of the trust system is that everyone would be limited to either one or two pieces at a time. As some of the DVDs are $75 new to purchase, to have two out to a member means $150 loss if they don't come back. If everyone pays for their media at the discounted rate, they can "borrow" as much as they want at a time. Someone suggested a higher rate for new stuff and lower for used, which would make sense, but you would also get more credit when returned in better condition. It's still in the works, but their has to be enough interest to go ahead. I hope their is!

    Oh, finally, this is being floated as an idea here, but it is in no way connected with the owners or moderators of the forum yet. The mention of supporting members was an angle I had not considered and I thank you for that as their might be something very useful there, but I wanted to make sure the owners of the forum were not connected to this unfairly.
     
  12. TekGreg

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    Not necessarily. I've had suggestions of straight trust, deposit-based, using buying power to simply obtain discounts, hybrid systems - it's completely open as far as I'm concerned! If you've got an idea, throw it in the ring! If you don't want it public, PM me!
     
  13. PanBaccha

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    I just love watching Clint Smith on DVD or Youtube.
    Down-to-earth firearm instructor!


    [ame]http://youtu.be/BfyULpEhmug[/ame]
     
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