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Discussion in 'AK & SKS Discussion' started by beltor, Sep 7, 2012.
I am thinking if buying a mud gun. Would I be better off buying a cheap AK or Used SKS?
Welcome to FTF. Personally I prefer the sks but its basically a poor man's ak anyway.
Yes....welcome to the forum.
Better off with the AK-47 for plenty of reasons. Just my opinion. I started with an SKS many years ago...graduated to an AK and never looked back. None of them are as cheap as they used to be back in the day.
Save your money n get the AK other wise u will just be buying a AK later but don't get a cheap AK stay away from the wasr aks they are cheaply made or get the sks n start saving for a AK wich ever way u will get a AK LOL
The SKS has more parts in the gas system. A Piston, and intermediate piston, while the AK has a single connected piston. The intrmediate piston of the SKS helps is a bit with accuracy, but so does the longer sight radius and machined receiver.
The AK (or most AKM clones) are folded sheet metal. It is light, strong, and reliable. It is accurate enough to be combat effective out to 500 meters. It was designed from the begining to be a high capacity rifle.
If one really spends some time and learns to run an AK, it is a very good platform, especially in it's simple form.
Every "gun person" should have and AK in their collection. Gun collectors should have an SKS and an AK. If your are going to run a gun a lot, the AK will be easier to find parts for if it ever does break. There is a reason the Russians replaced the SKS.
I have to respectfully disagree with prior posters.
I have both, and prefer the SKS.
IMO, it may have something to do with shooting style.
The AK cycles rounds downrange faster, but I personally prefer the
machined receiver of an SKS, and the style of stock. I also prefer the more
solid feel, and the balance.
I'd try both, and make up your own mind. They both field strip well.
I own both...
Paid $75.00 for my Russian SKS back in the 90's
Paid $500.00 for my AK about 5 years ago
The SKS IMHO is more accurate and better made.
I don't disagree with how the SKS is made. It does indeed seem more pleasant to shoot. The Milled redeiver is nice.
The OP said he wanted a "mud gun". I'd go with the AK in the case of a gun intended to be abused.
The AK is cheaper to mass produce and replacement parts will be easier to come by.
If he asked which was the nicer made one, I'd go with the SKS.
..Serious..You can get a SKS cheaper and they are pretty accurate. So if it was me I'd lean to the less expensive weapon for what you need it for and if it doesn't suit you then they sell pretty quick and you can get that money back and get an AK. The AK is a bit lighter though. So it's going to be more what you think fill the need best. There's a reason there are so many different guns out there. What I like may not work for you at all. I mean, I have one of those cheap old Century Arms AKs (M70) that I love to shoot and get great groups out of. I loved my WASR 10 too. I don't like most the SKS's other than M or D types (they use AK mags) but many people think I"m really wrong. Because it's hard to find any gun collector that does not have a SKS with the original mag or one or few of those duck bill mags. So pick a coupe up, see what you like. Both will fill the need. But only you will know what will work best for you.
what I was trying to find is a good SHTF gun. I have an ar for my primery, I was trying to find a gun that will survive all the abuse that can be throune at it. I have found a ak47 for 475.00 in good condition and a SKS for 350.00. after reading the posts I think the AK may be the best. I may pick up the SKS later.
Both guns did well for themselves in SEA mud paddies. But the AKM has enough room in the recvr to pack a LOT of crud, whereas the SKS is the more conventionially built rifle.
I have to agree with therewolf. I have both I love my sks more. however the sks I have is a sino soviet norinco and is worth about $850 bucks so I have only shot it a few times I dont want it damaged. If you dont know what sino soviet is, its a russian made sks made in a chinese factory. A first year production of 1956. And mine is mint! but the AK is fun to shoot too. I just like my sks more cause its more accurate.
I have both and enjoy both but I enjoy my AK more. Not really sure why, it just feels better when shooting. Now if I am in the prone position I prefer my SKS.
Do you want a rifle to do short rifle stuff, or do you want a light carbine-type rifle for doing pistol stuff at longer ranges? That seems to be the question. AK is more of a carbine-type rifle than the heavier, more accurate, more comfortable to shoot SKS, IMO.
I bought an SKS in a ramline montecarlo-style stock. I changed it to a tapco "tacticool" adjustable-butt stock with multiple 20 round duckbill mags. I will be going back to the montecarlo-style stock soon for the added comfort.
I went with the sks myself. I prefer the longer sighting radius and I had a hard time finding an AK that really felt right when I held it. I am looking for one still but the sks I picked up is surprisingly accurate and a ton of fun...
Originally, I held the SKS in low regard.
Until I got one, and started shooting it.
The AKs are a lot of fun though, when a bunch of guys are
pouring it all into one target downrange.
Also, I had an SKS as a kid and it was a fun gun for hunting. I decided when I started looking for a SHTF rifle that if I was laying money down it needed to be multipurpose. I looked long and hard for a Norinco as I felt it was a balance of cost and features (mostly chrome lining and being one of the lighter weight options in its overall ergo category). I can't deny that I am looking now for another SHTF rifle but not to replace the sks, simply one more for the "fam"...
I have AKs and one last Norinco-marked SKS that will be a keeper.
I'll take the SKS as a shooter 8-days a week over an AK. No mags to lose or damage, and you can load it without strippers, but if you have them - a bonus.
And if you can save your empty stripper clips, you can re-load them at a later time. I think of how folks go nutso over an 8-shot Garand with proprietary en-bloc - that is a single-shot without them, whereas an SKS will always support 10rds.
Yes, AKs are great for suppressive fire, but if you can get the sights down with an SKS, you're gold.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Now, try field-stripping & cleaning
that M1,M4, M14, or M16 in the bush...
I think that I will pass. I got a few grey hairs from trying that with the M16A1. In the immortal words of Daddy Bush "Not gonna do it, would not be prudent".