Changing my Ar hand guard

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by patrickkr, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. patrickkr

    patrickkr New Member

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    I have a Windham weaponry scr ar15 it has the standard hand guard and I am wanting to change it to a magpul one. My question is which one do I get and how hard is it to install? I have no experience working on uppers. What kind of tools do I need I would prefer not to have a gunsmith do it the only one around told me he will charge me $75 to change it and I would like to learn how to do it myself. ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1397248658.606690.jpg


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  2. hmh

    hmh New Member

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    First off if the new one isn't a free float that gun smith/shop is a total rip off. The handguard removal tool makes it easier but isn't necessary. Push the delta ring down and pull the handguard off if the new ones don't have the metal shield remove it from your old ones and put it in the new ones. If the new one is free float then you have to get a little serious.
     

  3. patrickkr

    patrickkr New Member

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    Is the one I have considered a mid length or carbine length? And it's not free a free float. The pic is the one I want. ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1397250113.849670.jpg


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  4. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Active Member

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    U tube is a great resource.


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  5. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    As HMH stated its very simple to do yourself without any tools, First make sure its unloaded and chamber is clear " safety first "
    put the buttstock on the table so its up high enough you can get good downward leverage , grab the delta ring with your right hand and pull down , grab bottom part of hand guard with left hand and pull out while pulling down on delta ring , release and then do the same thing with the top .
    Do the same thing to install only in reverse , you will need to put the top on on first if doing a Magpul MOE
     
  6. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    Yours in a carbine length so thats what your stuck with unless you go with a free float rail
     
  7. Point6liter

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    Step 1: Go grab a pair of 10" channel locks out of your toolbox

    Step 2: Pick up rifle

    Step 3: Sit down on couch, and perform safety check on said rifle. (Remove magazine, rack charging handle a few times, check chamber to ensure there is NOTHING in it. Lock back bolt, put weapon on safe, repeat three times)

    Step 4: While still sitting on the couch, place the butt of the rifle on the floor between your legs, so the barrel is pointing vertically. (preferably a carpeted floor, but if not carpet, get a towel and fold it up to make sure the stock won't slip or scratch the floor)

    Step 5: Pick up the channel locks and make sure they are on the smallest setting for the jaw size.

    Step 6: Open the pliers up, and place the GRIPS of the pliers on the D-ring, and close the grips so they are resting on and snug on the ring.

    Step 7: While keeping the grips closed, push down on the pliers, toward the receiver. This will push the d ring down, thus releasing the hand guard. If they stick, you may need a friend to pull them out for you, or sometimes you can give the rifle a jolt and they will come out.

    Step 8: Apply pressure to the d ring in the same fashion, and install the new ones. Maybe with the help of a friend. Make sure they are all lined up and pretty before releasing pressure on the d ring.

    Step 9: enjoy your new handguard
     
  8. patrickkr

    patrickkr New Member

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    Thanks for the info it is very helpful.


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  9. patrickkr

    patrickkr New Member

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    I got it off it took me and my brother though one to pull the ring down and one to pull the hand guard off and I ordered the magpul moe one and a couple other parts. It's crazy I only want to spend $30 and end up spending $200 on parts for my ar's


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  10. Mercator

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    It is really a 5 minute job. I am also impressed how someone was there for you to pocket your $75 for nothing. A friendly LGS dealer who sells you the Magpul forend should be glad to snap it on. Magpul is a good choice. It is just handier than the standard forend, and looks better. Don't worry about free floating upgrades. On the AR carbine it is totally redundant (unless you want to be in the Guinness Book for worlds best Precision Long Distance Camp Perry M4 Carbine)
     
  11. Quentin

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    That's called the buddy system in the military. Usually you have a lot of buddies there!

    Like PureHavoc said, get the carbine length MOE. (7")

    Welcome to ARs. $200 is nothing for upgrades. Lots of folks buy a $600 entry level rifle and soon have more than doubled the price. Be careful though, many upgrades are a waste of money, think it out before you buy.
     
  12. patrickkr

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    This is my second ar I built the lower from scratch on my first and got it close to whet I want it and have about $1300 into it and this one I traded for and have Mabey $900 so far ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1397258077.997616.jpg


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  13. Dearhunter

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    I changed out my forward handguard to a AB arms handguard. It has so many options, plus your hand anchors so nice to it. It has outstanding aluminum heat shield built in. Take a looksee

    http://www.abarms.com/AB_ARMS_MOD1_p/abam1b.htm

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    patrickkr New Member

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    Very nice looks awesome. Kinda wish I would have seen that before I bought the magpul one.


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  15. ccase39

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    Lol yea funny how that happens. I did the same thing. I wound up buying a bunch of extras. Some of them I found out that I do not care for like the quad rail and vertical forgrip I got. I am going to get the same magpul hand guard you have for my carbine.
    Wait until you get into building. THAT is a whooooole new ball game and an endless amount of fun.
    Most work you can do on your AR yourself with the help of some YOutube videos and members of this forum. They are deceivingly simple to work on. Especially the lower.
     
  16. Anna_Purna

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    I second that notion
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  17. ccase39

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    I want one!



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  18. sweeper22

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    I like the Magpul handguards. They're cheap, functional, easy to install, and very ergonomic for my tastes. Two of my rifles wear them...and those two rifles are probably worth $3K combined. So I guess you could say I think their $35 handguard is worthy of a nice rifle.

    I'm happy to mount an MOE handguard on any rifle that won't have any additional clutter attached to it.
     
  19. sandog

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    Agreed. Talking off a two piece hand guard and putting on another two piece is just a matter of pushing down the delta ring. Should take all of 25 seconds. Surprised that gunsmith didn't want to charge you $50 just for talking to him. Installing a free float hand guard is a little more involved but not difficult at all.
     
  20. Quentin

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    I also have Magpul MOE handguards on two ARs. I love the feel and the tight fit. It's a great, expandable design and somehow they get a rock solid fit whether you have round or triangular end caps. I also can't fault their CTR stock. These are my favorite upgrades to a basic AR.